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Westminstenders: Competitive Stupidity

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RedToothBrush · 10/02/2019 16:00

A week of wondering which MP is going to be the most dumb.

There is stiff competition between parties and remain / leave.

Expect incredible bids of ignorance and incompetence to curl your toes, with a bit of constitutional craziness thrown in for good measure.

Valentine's Day beckons...

... And so does the No Deal Divorce.

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prettybird · 11/02/2019 11:53

Can you link us to the reports about Germany now officially being in recession please StepLadders07 - I'd be interested to read them.

gutrotweins · 11/02/2019 11:54

Why isn't anyone doing anything?????

Nearly every expert on trade, the environment, law and workers rights are saying what a disaster Brexit will be; there are 400 or so bills still to pass in Parliament; we're being fed fact and fiction about no deal, so none of us knows the true implications; no-deal planning is like a piss up in a brewery... Angry

It's no wonder other nations think we're phlegmatic!

I've been on the marches, and they don't seem to work... what's next??? Surely it's reaching out to the people with the FACTS, but how do you do that these days?

StepLadders007 · 11/02/2019 11:54

Not buying their stuff might well tip them into troubled times but that would not benefit us unless we can float our island off to the middle of the Pacific

Incorrect. I'd prefer to buy European stuff but if we can't then we will simply just get it from somewhere else.

The French wine market in the UK is massive, really huge. If we can't buy their wine we will just have to get our wine from one of the myriad of other countries that produce it.

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RedToothBrush · 11/02/2019 11:55

You know how Treeza ruled out a customs union in the letter to Corbyn

Lewis Goodall @lewis_goodall
NEW- two sources in separate govt depts say they’ve started planning for a customs union type deal in last week since the Corbyn offer. Whatever PM/govt saying publicly, Whitehall thinks it’s a real and serious possibility.

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Littlespace · 11/02/2019 11:56

I also happen to think that not everything should be about our benefit. Obviously we want to be treated fairly but I think the UK is looking batshit atm.

How about Irish peace? How about peace in Europe?

DGRossetti · 11/02/2019 11:56

Why isn't anyone doing anything?????

This is the nation which not only gave the world "The Charge of the Light Brigade" but then went on to treat it as a great victory for posterity.

This is the nation that thinks Dunkirk was also a victory.

DGRossetti · 11/02/2019 11:57

The French wine market in the UK is massive, really huge. If we can't buy their wine we will just have to get our wine from one of the myriad of other countries that produce it.

Like ... England.

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RedToothBrush · 11/02/2019 11:58

I can actually see the EU going down in flames

Errr OK.

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StepLadders007 · 11/02/2019 11:59

This is the nation that thinks Dunkirk was also a victory

We got hundreds of thousands of men back onto UK shores, without those men we couldn't have defended the country which in turn meant we couldn't have used the UK as a base to liberate Europe.

Which we did.

PestyMachtubernahme · 11/02/2019 12:00

Germany is in recession, Italy also heading that way. In fact a new global recession like 2008 has been long predicted for this year.

UK may take a little longer to head that way, as during the last two quarters people have been spending money to batten down the hatches.

The EU are not offering a punishment deal, it would not be in their interests.

The developed west can't expand forever, we only have one planet to support us.

StepLadders007 · 11/02/2019 12:01

Errr OK

Most of the major EU economies are struggling, massively. It's not far fetched to state what I did.

If Italy go into recession there is nothing Italy can do to get out of it, they have to rely on the EU to get them out of it.

Can you see the current politcal leadership in Italy doing nothing about that scenario?

DGRossetti · 11/02/2019 12:03

We got hundreds of thousands of men back onto UK shores, without those men we couldn't have defended the country which in turn meant we couldn't have used the UK as a base to liberate Europe.

Yes, let's overlook the disastrous decision to send them in the first place, and the attitudes behind it, shall we ? Writ large, that's the answer to the poster who asked why isn't anything being done.

bellinisurge · 11/02/2019 12:03

Nevah. In the field of human bullshitting. Has so much. Been churned out. By so few.

And lapped up by so many others.

StepLadders007 · 11/02/2019 12:03

The EU are not offering a punishment deal, it would not be in their interests

It what way isn't it a punishment deal? And it definitely isn't in their interests, ask the German car makers what they think about the "deal"

TalkinPeece · 11/02/2019 12:04

DGR
Shopping for hydroponics stuff (I use the granules on my green roof) is really funny. The stoner boys look utterly confused when DH and I chat in latin names Grin

DGRossetti · 11/02/2019 12:04

The developed west can't expand forever, we only have one planet to support us.

Base-moi ! Someone else who gets it !

StepLadders007 · 11/02/2019 12:05

DG

Dunkirk was, in it's own way, a victory, whether you like it or not. The "disasterous" decision was made because we went to help our allies and sacrificed many men doing that.

bellinisurge · 11/02/2019 12:06

Dunkirk? You are riffing on Dunkirk. I'm old. With parents who were veterans.
Utter billy bullshit.

DGRossetti · 11/02/2019 12:06

Shopping for hydroponics stuff (I use the granules on my green roof) is really funny. The stoner boys look utterly confused when DH and I chat in latin name

Depending on your store (or industrial unit) of choice, it's not uncommon to see families in there. Now I like chillies as much as the next person, but there only so far you can go in the quest for perfection, surely. Although it's hard not to feel a pang of pride in the Brummie Bubbler - not such a dumb city as you'd think Grin

1tisILeClerc · 11/02/2019 12:07

StepLadders007
Your comments are about as well thought through as the 'leavers' a year ago.
Regarding car manufacture. It may well be that the EU manufacturers, or indeed all that assemble in the UK, may decide that a 10% reduction in European output would be a good plan overall especially since growth will be in China and India etc. It is very convenient that the UK which is a bit more costly for them, since they have to 'export' further, compared to mainland Europe could simply be cut out completely. Yes UK production is significant, but not catastrophic if it were to be axed (for the EU manufacturers).

DGRossetti · 11/02/2019 12:07

I'm enjoying the history lesson Grin especially as it's rather proving my point.

bellinisurge · 11/02/2019 12:07

New username. Same old tired easily discounted bollocks.

StepLadders007 · 11/02/2019 12:07

Dunkirk? You are riffing on Dunkirk. I'm old. With parents who were veterans

RG started it, not me.

I'm old too.