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Brexit

Westminstenders: It's oh so quiet...

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RedToothBrush · 04/02/2019 15:14

It's oh so quiet // It's oh so still // You're all alone // And so peaceful until

You ring the news // Bim bam // You shout and you yell // Hi ho ho // You broke the spell // Gee, this is swell you almost have a fit // Brexit is fab and I got hit // There's no mistake get on with it

'Til it's over and then // It's nice and quiet //
Shh shh // But soon again // Shh shh // Uh oh let's start a big riot

You blow a fuse // Zing boom // The devil cuts loose // Zing boom // What's the use
Wow bam // Of leaving the EU

It's gone quiet.

May was supposed to go on a tour of the EU to get concessions. She hasn't.

Instead we are currently stuck in an internal never ending debate about Alternative Arrangements (which is being abbreved too A. A. by less convinced souls) and how Germany got all the money from Marshall Aid (it didn't) and how navy ships can suddenly sprout front opening hulls to become roll on roll off ferries to emulate the spirit of Dunkirk. One of our greatest ever military defeats, which merely had good PR.

The idea that there is going to be any shift in position between now and 14th Feb seems unlikely. It suits the EU and it suits the ERG to be blunt about it. It does not suit the UK national interest though.

Instead our livihoods and futures are slowly drip, drip, dripping away. Invisible to those loved up on the idea of Leaving. But like a newly wed, how long does that feeling last? 42% of British marriages end in divorce after all. When do people fall out of love with Brexit?

The revelation of the need for the WAIB is scary too. The WAIB is the Withdrawal Agreement Implementation Bill. You can read more about it here:
threadreaderapp.com/thread/1091734003265224708.html
Well I say you can read about it, but from the thread you can see that the WAIB hasn't been published yet. And for us to Brexit without a legal and constitutional nightmare parliament needs to pass both the WA And the WAIB. And if you thought it was difficult to get the WA through just wait until you clap eyes on the WAIB details.

With this in mind there are noises from the ERG about an A50 extension. Y'know the one we can't have unless the EU think it's it their interests too.

mlexmarketinsight.com/insights-center/editors-picks/brexit/europe/the-uk-rips-out-its-eu-law-drip,-only-to-hook-up-to-another
More on the WAIB.

Of course there is a more sinister explanation: May does indeed intend to no deal and or use civil contingency law to pass the WAIB in whatever form she sees fit without parliamentary scrutiny.

Tick, tick, tick.

A friend told me today not to worry about brexit as "we survived before and we'll survive again". I didn't say much. My history lessons were rather grimmer in reminding me, that the ones who didn't survive don't get to be so optimistic.

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Bubastes · 06/02/2019 23:15

'There are small nations and there are countries that have not yet realised they are small nations.'

Ooof.

Burn.

(I approve of that kind of shade)

prettybird · 06/02/2019 23:20

I did chortle loudly at this comment from @ADarkandStormyKnight on the AIBU thread about Tusk's perfectly reasonable comments:

Well wherever it is, I hope they are taken there on a big red bus.

GrinGrin

7Days · 06/02/2019 23:33

APileOfBallyhoo I totally understand. So angry.
Ok Britain, do what you like, its sad but your business. But to fuck us up AGAIN. To dismiss the gains, the straightforward lives ordinary are having.
Who the fuck do they think they are?

Apileofballyhoo · 07/02/2019 00:03

7Days, I don't know. I don't know except they must be completely amoral. Maybe that's why they hate the EU so much.

I've read a bit about psychopaths/sociopaths lately. Apparently psychopaths are more common than you'd think. DH was reading a book (don't know author or title sorry) that discussed psychopaths and society. High ratio of psychopaths in prison, as you'd expect, but where the statistics really leap is in the reoffenders - a psychopath can't be rehabilitated as they just lack empathy. The other high figure for occurance of psychopaths is in business - CEOs and the like. Able to be quite ruthless I suppose. It made DH and I wonder about how many MPs and politicians in general are psychopaths. Confused

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7Days · 07/02/2019 00:31

I read a book like that, Ballyhoo, the Psychopath Test by Jon Ronson. Interesting.

borntobequiet · 07/02/2019 05:44

While this one’s still going:
www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/rees-mogg-knows-hes-going-to-hell-20190206182211

Apileofballyhoo · 07/02/2019 08:28

That was the book, 7Days!

golondrina · 07/02/2019 08:50

{There are not enough four letter words in the English language.}
Well since we are discussing the EU there are another 26 languages to help you out.
Spanish has some truly excellent swearwords and insults.

LonelyandTiredandLow · 07/02/2019 09:09

Ballyhoo - lots of evidence now suggesting both male and female prisoners have had head traumas and brain injury. Guardian piece yesterday looked at female prisoners and IIRC over 45% had suffered domestic violence resulting in brain injury. In both sexes this is likely what causes issues with empathy and re-offending. It's easy to diagnose huge swathes of people with personality disorders. I think this is more group behaviour, which can unfortunately have similar end results Sad.

LonelyandTiredandLow · 07/02/2019 09:18

If anyone is interested in group behaviour, here is a simple link. I think the difference with this group is most of the population are stuck on dominator mode and Farage is seen as the initiator, Cummings was the informer (although his advice was to keep all vague so also clarifyer roles) BoJo/Gove/Fox/Mogg are all fighting over the spoils (Leave as a campaign has not been a good example of group work, I have to say!) so they are all summarizers who haven't listened very effectively or come together to agree an objective (hence ERG splitting).

BigChocFrenzy · 07/02/2019 11:31

Jericho What Corbyn is proposing for the future relationship would be better than May's plan.
and it could be achieved by adapting the PD

It is however, still Brexit not Remain

Jericho1 · 07/02/2019 20:05

Thank you BigChocFrenzy .
So, does that mean you would support it?

Mistigri · 08/02/2019 08:11

The problem with Corbyn's position is that the PD will not be binding.

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