I survived 1980's recession as a kid, I'm sure I'll survive this

[LadyandGent]

In fairness, my mother couldn't cope with not having potatoes, so heard rice was cheap, which we had religiously.
2 Yellow pack burgers, frozen peas, rice and gravy!!!!

I was very skinny for a few years lol.

We may well also have more freedom to freely trade with other nations

Which nations are we currently being prevented from trading with, roses?

Do you think that we will be in a strong negotiating position for all those FTAs we need to sort, post-Brexit?

Unnecessary - have you heard of the rest of the world? it's the place we get the other 25% of our food from!
I am not suggesting we try and compete with the far east with regard to manufacturing, I am suggesting that current companies that import parts from the EU might look at UK companies to supply some of the parts that the need which would keep their 'just in time' chain going.

All this dome and disaster about international manufacturing companies moving to the EU is only likely if we are left on WTO rules and have to pay tariffs in the long term. I would suspect this is unlikely and that the EU would get a free trade deal or some sort of customs union would happen so if we paid tariffs it wouldn't be for very long.

Presumably if there are fewer jobs in the UK there will be fewer EU people here to take them on except for those with settled status. yup, I can really see the rush to do the jobs that the ‘locals’ didn’t want to do before Brexit. Fancy picking veg, sorting through the recycling, etc, anyone? This is why they get jobs here, because so many people born and bread here don’t want to do dirty, manual labour.

{ I would suspect this is unlikely and that the EU would get a free trade deal or some sort of customs union would happen so if we paid tariffs it wouldn't be for very long.}
5-10 years most likely.
The 'darling' of the UK economy was financial services, they are moving out as fast as they can as they HAVE to be within the EU.
Trading only works if you have something to trade, you can't just keep buying 'stuff' without creating wealth .

A lot of our food from non-EU countries comes through the EU as I'm sure you know. And you want us to up our food supply from non-EU nations, and you don't think that prices will monumentally rise?

Your theory that the collapse of businesses involved in import/export wouldn't have huge knock-on effects to the rest of the economy is also just nonsense.

I am suggesting that current companies that import parts from the EU might look at UK companies to supply some of the parts that the need which would keep their 'just in time' chain going.

You really do live in unicorn land.

The 'darling' of the UK economy was financial services, they are moving out as fast as they can as they HAVE to be within the EU.

Oh Im sure that doesn't matter to our economy at all. We can just replace them or something.

Presumably if there are fewer jobs in the UK there will be fewer EU people here to take them on except for those with settled status

Ah, so fewer jobs is a good thing. Riiiiight.

Unnecessary - have you heard of the rest of the world? it's the place we get the other 25% of our food from!

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

Oh, d'you know what, I can't be bothered. You've been on thread after thread spouting the same rubbish and it's been explained to you over and over and over again. Enjoy your Brexit.

Re. Fantastic news from Sunderland for brexitteers.

It was very wrong/naughty of UK to be so dependant on foreigners - it's important to break that dependency (even if it was beneficial)

Secondly, it will have no affect on the area if Nissan goes. Because most companies are small and medium sized so they'll be fine. Meh, Benefits are fine.

Thirdly, some things are more important than jobs, money and security. 'This is the UK'. We won all the wars all by ourselves.

Lastly, less jobs = less foreigners.

I bet there are some Brexiteer celebrations tonight. Well done, guys.

Fancy picking veg, sorting through the recycling, etc, anyone? This is why they get jobs here, because so many people born and bread here don’t want to do dirty, manual labour.

Which is also seasonal, so unstable, and poorly paid. So not a steady form of income or enough to pay the cost of living in the UK, hence why so many foreigners came on their own, leaving their families at home, freeing them to do that sort of work and sent most of the money back home where it had more value than their currency.

I remember the hype about y2000, and there were very few real issues so I'm guessing Brexit will be similar. All talk, no content!

I remember the hype about y2000, and there were very few real issues so I'm guessing Brexit will be similar. All talk, no content!

Do you understand anything?

We can just replace Nissan with artisan jam producers. Problem solved.

I remember the hype about y2000, and there were very few real issues so I'm guessing Brexit will be similar. All talk, no content!

BINGO!

Fucking hell, we really are doomed. How can people be so thick.

Oh man

bubble won the bingo

And i was so close!!

I remember the hype about y2000, and there were very few real issues so I'm guessing Brexit will be similar. All talk, no content!

Can you explain the similarities between the two issues that lead you to this assessment?

My sphincter spontaneously clenches (half irritation/half embarrassment) when people trot out 'well the Y2K bug never came to anything...'

mum2jenny you are sooooo going to regret mentioning Y2K

Hot damn, I went away and had dinner (lentil soup, fact fans!) and missed drive-by BINGO!

I once survived an armed robbery.

Doesn’t mean I want a gun pointed to my head again for old time’s sake.

theelements

You snooze you lose baby

Oh God, not the year 2000 crap again. Y2k was a known problem with a defined timeline. All you had to do was identify the systems affected and decide whether to fix or replace. In 1995 - yep 5 years before the deadline I was one of many people working on those issues. Companies spent ££££££millions to fix those problems and it took years. We have less than 2 months and still don't have a clue. Sorry but any one who really thinks this is anything like Y2k should not be allowed to vote.

just

Goodness!!

A guy i worked with was held up at 'gunpoint' (finger) the week before he got his tie caught in the shredder...in the basement!! He was really unlucky

Hope it wasn't too traumatic for you

Yeàr 2K was worked on by thousands for 2or3 years to make sure things went smoothly I'm not a programme writer so I cant say exactly what but I do know people who put a couple of years work into the changeover