How scared are you of brexit?

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Because I’m trying to work out if I’m a normal amount of scared or if I’m losing it.

I’m terrified of the recession that is looming after brexit, increased food prices, reduced public spending, which will lead to more homelessness and misery and perhaps even more violence on the streets. I’m terrified of the NHS being privatised, of not having access to cheap fruit and vegetables, of not being able to travel to europe.

Perhaps most of all I’m scared of a return to the troubles in Northern Ireland. I can’t velieve people would rather have a border than a backstop.

I’m scared of the way Eu migrants are being treated and how normal it has become for the Eu to be hated and mocked and blamed for everything. I’m scared of what this is doing to my friends, my colleagues, my community. I feel complicit and I don’t know how to protest or complain.

I’m a Londoner, and I’m scared of the ‘metropolitan elite’ conspiracy theories that both the left and the right seen to hold about people like me (I guess I’m what could be called ‘a centrist’). It makes me scared to talk about any of this.

I’m terrified for the future of our country, for my son’s future, for my elderly parents’ future, for our jobs. We are small, community minded people with small incomes. I spend a lot of my time volunteering in the local community. I feel like I should have been getting rich and hoarding money instead because it’s all going to be dog eat dog very soon.

I am losing sleep. I can’t concentrate at work. I find myself bursting into tears and getting angry for no reason other than a total; overwhelming fear of the future. I feel like my future has been taken away. Am i going mad? Or is it just the uncertainty? Or am I really part of an elite that can’t handle change?

For what it’s worth, I think the Eu needs to reform and the uk needs a big political shake up. But I think brexit is going to make all our problems worse, not better.

Does anyone else feel this way?

Plus real concern about after we leave or stay, and how the extremes of either side will react. Yes we are divided but the aggression we have all seen achieves nothing.

Exactly. I see no way out of the anger. And recession / depression is going to make that even worse.

I am scared and angry - but not losing sleep over it yet.
We have savings and a low mortgage so more of a buffer than most.
And financially we can afford to stockpile and have a big garage to store it all in.
But i am worried about the value of the pound.
And I am seriously worried about our pensions. We are not in the fortuante position of many Leave voters re pensions.
But mostly I am worried for my children and what future they will have.
And that’s where the real anger is brewing more and more.

And I am worried for our jobs!!

I am not scared. Perhaps because I have lived through the miners strike and deep depression in the north and have lived to tell the tale. I think people who are ‘terrified’ and ‘angry’ are probably people who have led very privileged lives and are scared of change.

I think those who are angry and terrified understand how the the revenue income for the country as a whole affects the economy, @Bowchicawowow.
We will lose investment and tax receipts from the top to bottom, which will in turn pressure public services in a way we have never seen. The UK credit ratings will plummet and it'll be too expensive to borrow to fill the shortfall.
This will be hard on those you call privileged but every bit as hard on those who rely on benefits or public services for their daily lives.

The people I know who aren't scared are generally the ones who have lived very comfortable, privileged lives and believe that stuff like unemployment and poverty happen to "scumbags", not nice middle-class people like them. There are a lot of complacent people out there. Doesn't just apply to Brexit - I was talking with my mother about antibiotics/ antibiotic resistance a while back and she thought I was ridiculous to be concerned because "they" would just invent some new antibiotics.

I am getting scared now. I'm very angry and fairly mild-mannered (and protected from the majority of negative impacts Brexit will bring) so I can easily see this tip into social chaos. Food and medicine shortages can strip the best of us of pacifism.

And that's without the goady fuckery of the deluded Leavers who still refuse to take responsibility for their shit.

My instinct is that it's all going to be ok. But instincts count for shit, so I have back up medicine, food and enough money built up to ship out if the shtf.

@Bowchicawowow I grew up in 70s/80s in Wales. My mum supported us all at one point on her part time wage because the industry my father worked in was decimated by Thatcher.

Brexit scares me.

To anyone who is scared and hasn't already read my suggestion for a three day buffer, here it is again-
Imagine being snowed in for three days. What do you and your family actually eat? Get shelf stable or freezer friendly versions of that. Get hygiene stuff like toothpaste and sanpro. Get treats snacks and entertainment sorted. Why 3 days? It's doable and storeable. It gives you three days to suss out your local circumstances without worrying about getting food in. If you want to do more, there's plenty of advice on MN. Dodge the goady feckers as you do but they aren't you and your family. Do what works for you.

I’m just bloody bloody angry. And frustrated with the utter stupidity of it all

Me too peridot

Not scared, but certainly apprehensive. I work in an EU funded area of scientific research so my job is very likely to go pooof, and I have a disability so it's not easy finding another.

DH's job is more secure and we have a bit of savings for a rainy day.

The sky is looking dark and thunderous, so we are swearing a lot and hunkering down. Hopefully we will weather the storm.

We know there are are lot of people with less financial resilience than us

I was talking with my mother about antibiotics/ antibiotic resistance a while back and she thought I was ridiculous to be concerned because "they" would just invent some new antibiotics

Hahaha hahaha

As a microbiologist in scientific research I refer back to my previous post.

Hahahahahaha

They indeed.

I’ve heard it so many time, Oh don’t worry, they will come to an agreement, they will sort it out.
I do envy the people who believe in the mighty magical ‘they’.

I feel so sorry for my teens/young adults.

As a middle aged woman I lived through a great period of optimism - working in London during new labour coming into power. Feeling like we could change the world for the better.

Now it feels like we are going to undo 60 years of work, where we became a tolerant ad diverse country.

Where is the hope for our young people? I feel genuinely depressed all the time for their future. Fuck knows how they must be feeling. It must a generational melancholy.

Wise words^^ bellinisurge

No idea what ^^ was for. Perhaps useful to stick up the arse of the first irritating Brexiteer I encounter on the school run shortly.
Apologies. This is making me very irritable.

Thank you @tellmewhenthespaceshiplands .

I don't understand this shortage of fresh fruit and veg, tbh.
we buy ours from our local market, sometimes daily.
we have a Fishmonger, Butcher, Baker etc and all sourced locally.

I can't afford to be worried as already have mh issues, and it's not like we can stop it, or do anything about the inevitable.

I don't want to get anyone more worried. It's true that we can't do anything about it. But I have to be honest, I'm really struggling.

worriedmum and bubblewire Some people believe that Brexit will lower house prices and give them an opportunity to own a house, which they couldn't ordinarily afford. I am interested to hear your views on that.

I don't want to get anyone more worried. It's true that we can't do anything about it. But I have to be honest, I'm really struggling

Then write to your MP, your local opposition party, in itself it does nothing but millions of people contracting parties can change policy especially Labours policy which seems to be in flux or non existent if i were to be impolite

7/10?

I'm taking it personally Like 'fiiiine, you don't want me, I'm going!'
DH doesn't want to go though....we've compromised on 'if there's troops on the streets and its £6 for a loaf of bread' then we'll go.
We've put TTC on hold as it just seems irresponsible.
Also, I'm finishing an MSc in September and was really looking forward to looking for a 'career' job but that won't be possible if we move to Italy as my written Italian just isn't good enough.

I think I'm mainly just cross tbh.

worriedmum and bubblewire Some people believe that Brexit will lower house prices and give them an opportunity to own a house, which they couldn't ordinarily afford. I am interested to hear your views on that

@Bowchicawowow - Much depends on what you mean by lower house prices - a shock in the market or a slow and steady fall - and how you think Brexit will cause that to happen. Tell me that and then I'll tell you what I think. Otherwise it's just too vague to comment on.

I’m fucking furious. Whatever happens in the long run, our faith in politicians (tenuous at best) is now shattered. What this will do for the future of our political process, I just don’t know. This is not ‘delivering the will of the British people’.

There are reports today in the daily fail about the big supermarkets- I haven’t read it but they are warning of soaring prices and shortages. If you have yet to start your stockpiles, I would get cracking now 😡

In the interests of my username however, here are all the rubbish platitudes from Leavers in one place to save them then other later on:

It will all be fine.
Project fear
You’re a metropolitan elite so you deserve this
We can grow our own food
House prices
Sovereignty

There you go.