How scared are you of brexit?

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Because I’m trying to work out if I’m a normal amount of scared or if I’m losing it.

I’m terrified of the recession that is looming after brexit, increased food prices, reduced public spending, which will lead to more homelessness and misery and perhaps even more violence on the streets. I’m terrified of the NHS being privatised, of not having access to cheap fruit and vegetables, of not being able to travel to europe.

Perhaps most of all I’m scared of a return to the troubles in Northern Ireland. I can’t velieve people would rather have a border than a backstop.

I’m scared of the way Eu migrants are being treated and how normal it has become for the Eu to be hated and mocked and blamed for everything. I’m scared of what this is doing to my friends, my colleagues, my community. I feel complicit and I don’t know how to protest or complain.

I’m a Londoner, and I’m scared of the ‘metropolitan elite’ conspiracy theories that both the left and the right seen to hold about people like me (I guess I’m what could be called ‘a centrist’). It makes me scared to talk about any of this.

I’m terrified for the future of our country, for my son’s future, for my elderly parents’ future, for our jobs. We are small, community minded people with small incomes. I spend a lot of my time volunteering in the local community. I feel like I should have been getting rich and hoarding money instead because it’s all going to be dog eat dog very soon.

I am losing sleep. I can’t concentrate at work. I find myself bursting into tears and getting angry for no reason other than a total; overwhelming fear of the future. I feel like my future has been taken away. Am i going mad? Or is it just the uncertainty? Or am I really part of an elite that can’t handle change?

For what it’s worth, I think the Eu needs to reform and the uk needs a big political shake up. But I think brexit is going to make all our problems worse, not better.

Does anyone else feel this way?

What about the riots of 2011? That started off as being a reaction to Mark Duggan shooting but became a free for all excuse to loot shops.

People become unpredictable when they panic.

Checking on wiki 5 people died in the 2011 riots.

Worried and furious!

There have been riots tobee but as a general rule, the British don't have much of a track record of rioting as a form of protest compared to a lot of countries. I think that's a pretty much agreed fact.

Well I keep telling myself that Bow. But... l hope it's not put to the test.

As a British mum in the EU I am very afraid that the time is approaching when my children have to renounce their British citizenship to keep their EU passport. For various reasons I am not entitled to citizenship of the country we currently live in so there may well come a time when I am not entitled to live in the same country as my kids.

This is what almost everyone in my family voted for of course! Brexit means Brexit!

I'm Irish and living in Ireland. Aside from some distant family (parents cousins, aunts, etc), I don't have a connection to the UK.

I will say, I'm terrified of Brexit. Ireland relies so much on the UK. Without a deal, a recession will definitely happen in Ireland. I'm dreading it. We had a severe recession for some years and we're definitely not out of the woods from that one. There's many effects from that recession.

What's the appetite in the UK for a second referendum on the Brexit? Why don't people take to the streets and March for a second referendum?

A friend of mine has family in the UK and I asked something at the weekend. I meant to ask - 'how do they feel about the UK leaving the EU?'. I mixed up my words and came out all wrong and asked - 'how do they feel about England leaving the UK'. Which is kinda ironic and funny because Brexit has the potential to break up the UK.

I've stockpiled food and animal feed to last for a while, plus we're setting up a small hydroponics system and have just ordered a polytunnel so we have fresh food. Now, the polytunnel and hydroponics will be great no matter what happens, but I am SO cross that we've felt it necessary to spend time, money and planning on creating and filling a pantry and buying items which may be entirely unneccesary purchases just because the government can't get itself together enough for anyone to have a clue what to expect. Grrr!

I'm not scared, but I feel a deep anger. I really resent David Cameron for his self absorbed stupidity in getting us into this mess, Our lives would all have been so much better without this. It's a disaster.

What's the appetite in the UK for a second referendum on the Brexit? Why don't people take to the streets and March for a second referendum?

We have marched

op I mean this nicely but I do think it's extreme to be so anxious it's taken over your whole life. I'm also not sure talking about it on this board will help your anxiety. No one knows what will happen and the process is still taking place so we don't know the end result yet. Would it help you to take control what are you most worried about food ? If so I would stockpile what you think you need get Ingredients for things like bread , tins , frozen meat, veg ect you could also set up growing veg / fruit if you have space in garden/ pots ect. I just think being this anxious about something out of our control will end up making you ill. I would look at some ways of trying to cope with your feelings and manage the stress and try not to over think things.

I had my first Brexit nightmare last night. I dreamt there was no deal and everything descended into chaos - it was terrifying. So I guess I'm more worried than I realised.

@ItStartedWithAKiss241 - Yes the government will pay ridiculously high import tax, however this will create ridiculously highly priced goods for the consumer which will lead to gross inflation which will lead to civil unrest. Well done leavers

Not scared at all. No idea how things will pan out so there is no point in worrying about things that may never happen.

I can honestly say that not one single person that I've spoken to (London and South East) appears to have even the slightest level of anxiety that you have; my friends and family include doctors, pharmacists, bankers, businessmen and trades people. I'm looking to book flights to Europe in April (EasyJet, not BA mind you).

Totally agree. This hysteria just isn’t replicated in my experience. People will just deal with it as it happens and I really don’t see that it’s going to be a tragedy of such proportions.

I feel the same as you OP. My main overwhelming feeling, though, is that I don't know or understand people any more.

I thought I lived in a relatively safe, tolerant society and it turns out that an enormous proportion of people seem to be full of hate and resentment for other people. It has really rocked me.

I am so sad for my children.

OP if that’s the way you feel, then may I suggest a break from Mumsnet. There is a lot of hysteria, scare-mongering and tinfoil hat type behaviour over Brexit on these boards and to be honest, reading it regularly (if that’s what you do) will not be helping your anxiety.

In the real world I’ve found friends and family are cautious and concerned, but people are far more measured and calm about the whole thing when chatting face to face in my experience.

No one I know is concerned at all. Most don't mention it and those that do are along the lines of see what happens.
I live in a 70-30 Remain voting area BTW. There is an awful lot of hysteria, not just on MN, which seems to just switch people off.

Here's some hysteria for you. Or common sense.
Imagine you are snowed in for three days. What will you and your family actually eat? Get freezer friendly and/or shelf stable versions of that. What are your hygiene needs - toothpaste, sanpro, shampoo etc. Make-up too if it makes you feel good.
Think about snacks and treats. And entertainment. Because being stuck indoors is boring.
Why 3 days? It's doable and storable and keeps you away from the shops while you suss out how things are locally. Want to do more? Plenty of advice on MN.

I'm very worried. We are in the process of moving back to London from overseas, and probably arriving around March 27th or so. I am giving birth next week so we are coming back with a toddler and a newborn.

My PIL voted leave and due to their declining health I worry about them, but I also worry about my capacity to GAF if they complain as I feel they have robbed my children of their future. Even though I do feel there were so many lies told, that I feel (am hoping) they were just gullible. We haven't spoken about Brexit for over a year so I don't know if they would vote the same way again.

The main thing which calms me is that DC and I all have passports and citizenship in my home country and we have enough savings to pay the (extortionate) fees for a spousal visa for DH, and with enough in savings to move if we had to. It would fuck us over financially but basic things like food quality and healthcare are excellent in my home country, so we'd probably be okay long term.

I feel like we're making a really massive fucking mistake by remigrating though, even with our low mortgage, private healthcare, and savings we will be able to weather move than the average.

I'm very worried. We are in the process of moving back to London from overseas

Out of interest, why are you moving back to London if you’re that concerned?

Because being stuck indoors is boring.

Not when you have the Mumsnet Brexit board at your fingertips And why would you be stuck indoors because of Brexit anyway?

BelliniSurge
Sensible, common sense advice there.
Apart from bread, milk, fresh items we always have at least 2 weeks worth of supplies in. I've always done this (stems from financial uncertainty many years ago.)
I realise that this may not be an option for everyone - finances, space constraints etc.

I think prepping is helping me feel calmer. I'm pretty scared, I have a baby DD and I do worry for her future.

I'm not British, neither is DH and we live in mainland Europe. From the outside it's like watching a very slow car crash. The way the government talks about Brexit like it's an inevitability when it can be easily stopped.

The way the EU are being blamed for a no deal Brexit. The UK chose to leave and want to take all the perks without any of the responsibility and then call out the EU for not playing the game.

I live in Switzerland. The country voted in a referendum for a hard boarder with the EULA to control immigration. They negotiated with the EU for years. Eventually when the government realised it couldn't work they went back to the people and said sorry, if you want the perks you have to keep the status quo and life went on.

The whole thing is absurd and my heart breaks for everyone suffering from what I can only imagine is trauma like anxiety