To be completely cheesed off. More F-ing brexit chaos

[Theworldisfullofgs]

The European Medical Agency left their London offices today to relocate to Amsterdam.
900 jobs. Lost our leading role in evaluating medicines.

No clear pathway forward.

What they should of written on that bus

Step forward into chaos, we have no idea and we're just telling you what you want to hear: Vote Leave.

Mark Carnage can't explain why the poor will benefit but bet he feelz it.

Doncha geddit, snowflakes?

Quietrebel

Jaw drops...AB.SO.LU.TE BOLLOCKS
(I have almost 20 years worth of payslips to prove it)
Where did you get such utter BS 'info???

Utter BS info here; EMA pay and conditions;

www.ema.europa.eu/en/about-us/careers/pay-conditions
States quite clearly in bold print under Deductions- Salaries are exempt from national tax

No wonder the EMA have received over 5,000 job applications for the 100-200 vacant posts in Amsterdam.

Well Thank God those useless elite scroungers have taken their useless elite scrounging selves away, then.

"exempt from national tax "

They pay a community tax, doesn't mean its tax free.

Good to see you can use google effectively though.

Well Thank God those useless elite scroungers have taken their useless elite scrounging selves away, then

Ha, ha, - aren't you the smartass.

Ha, ha, - aren't you the smartass.

Yes. Yes I am. 😘

The revenue from the income tax is deducted from the national contributions to the EU budget under the form of funding for projects, meaning, according to the European Commission, that this income tax benefits all EU states regardless the nationality of the official or his/her country of residence.

The non payment of national tax by employees of international organisations is a long standing precedent, basically because if they did these countries would benefit from a subsidy from organisations like the EU, UN, NATO WTO etc.

Nigel Farage has earned between £524,000 and £700,000 through TV and radio work in the last four years.

Plus he has a very wealthy sponsor whose identity remains a mystery...

Shame Nige can’t go and visit him, what with being a person of interest an’ all ...

The revenue from the income tax is deducted from the national contributions to the EU budget

The EU community income tax is deducted from salaries at source.

EU staff members also pay a special levy of 6-7% which goes back into the EU budget and is effectively returned to EU governments in the form of funding for projects.

I'm not sure what the reformatting of the post needed Clav

Could you not find anything on the internet that disproved it?

However it does bear thinking about that there were lots of organisations that had offices in London because of the proximity to the EMA, which of course will be moving, and we will be losing their income taxes too.

But Clav, like always, gets a hold of someone being slightly wrong and beats them over the head with it, using her amazing internet copy and paste skills.

Also, this comment:

"No wonder the EMA have received over 5,000 job applications for the 100-200 vacant posts in Amsterdam."

Leaves out the fact that average deduction of tax is between 12– 25 % according to EU figures, so to make out like they don't pay tax and this is the reason why so many people applied for jobs is ridiculous and disingenuous.

ridiculous and disingenuous

Well, if (not saying this is the aim, of course) perhaps one wanted to give a wordcloud-impression (to just leave a sort of general atmosphere), that those associated with a particular side were greedy, not socially cohesive, and so on, then just a bit of this sort of hinting might achieve that...

ISTR a very similar set of wordcloud-hints on one of the stockpiling threads, something news report about the amount of fresh food being thrown away, you know, not implying that people stockpiling non-fresh foods were similarly wasteful and profligate, oh no definitely not...

*Barnett is not a grant. The UK treasury takes all taxes raised in Scotland and uses the Barnett formula to calculate how much of it we are allowed to get back to spend on whatever the Scottish government chooses. So stop trying to make it sound like a handout, because it's not, it's our own money.

And so what if they decide to invest it in the health and education of its citizens? They're entirely entitled to do so. You sound jealous - perhaps you could petition your governement to do the same for your people.*

This ^ it's not a fecking grant!

It is interesting the way that many of this thread have reframed the problems of the bottom quartile as about whether the rich would hang around to pay tax so that they can continue to rely on benefits, rather than the potential to employ more domestic employees and to counteract an environment where the low paid have to take a zero hours contract or be replaced by someone from the Eastern Block.

In addition, s I stated above, a significant housing fall would be very good for those not on the housing ladder including teachers, nurses and doctors who, presumably, will still have jobs.

The idea that it is inevitable that the World will always be in trading blocks and these will remain exactly as they are right now is neither backed up by history or logic. The EU which, via the Euro, which is currently a retrogressive tax on the southern nations (who have experienced zero growth since its inception) and a subsidy to the rich north in unsustainable.

Brexit is clearly bad in GDP terms, short term, but medium term no one can say what the consequences will be.

The other big assumption made by leavers (and, to be fair, most analysts) is that no deal would be much worse for us than the EU.

It is not quite so clear cut. Clearly, initially our income would fall dramatically and we would have a bad recession or even a depression. However we have adjustment mechanisms via a fall in GBP, ability to set our own interest rates, print money and create tax incentives for business. Also our banks could probably survive, not comfortably but probably no banking crisis. Over time we would rebuild a trading relationship with the EU and other nations.

On the other hand the EC, with even a small stress to GDP could easily end up with a full scale bNking and Euro crisis and, ultimately, disintegration.

It is in everyone’s interest to have an orderly exit or for us to remain.

BorisBogtrotter
But Clav, like always, gets a hold of someone being slightly wrong and beats them over the head with it, using her amazing internet copy and paste skills

If you don't want me to reply, stop posting on my comments x 2.
I thought I was very restrained replying to Quietrebel after her Bollocks and utter BS comments.

Sorry, couldn't resist it...
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10847979/10000-European-Union-officials-better-paid-than-David-Cameron.html

There are plenty of UK civil servants that are better paid than the PM, so that’s a bit of a non story.

pelegrina . Dosent that prove clearly the huge salary she’s on if a dentist can afford to quit and live off her salary alone.

No, it doesn't prove anything. She's not on a huge salary but needed to go to protect her pension. My dentist was telling me before he left how they would have to draw their horns in and he would look for work.

Clav, there are lots of public servants in the UK who are better paid than the Prime Minister too.

Funny that isn't in that article.

"In addition, s I stated above, a significant housing fall would be very good for those not on the housing ladder including teachers, nurses and doctors who, presumably, will still have jobs."

You can say it it doesn't make you right.

A significant fall in house prices for one, means that mortgages are harder to come by, with bigger deposits needed, and smaller multiples of salaries.

It means fewer properties on the market.

But tbh, this point has been rebutted by others so many times I CBA to do any more.

BorisBogtrotter
Clav, there are lots of public servants in the UK who are better paid than the Prime Minister too
Funny that isn't in that article

You obviously want to keep going with this line of discussion -
I thought we were talking about tax?

From the article...

Mr Cameron is paid a gross salary of £142,500. After paying his taxes, National Insurance and pension contribution, Mr Cameron takes home about £81,350

The Coalition has set the Prime Minister’s salary as the upper limit for Whitehall pay, with only a small number of senior officials getting more

But in Brussels, even mid-ranking administrators can take home more cash than the Prime Minister. The leaked papers show that EU officials in the “AD 11” grade, a middle management group, have gross earnings of £112,090, including expatriation and household allowances But because they pay just 13.4 per cent in tax, they take home £83,357 in net pay

Also: Those with children will earn substantially more, with allowances totalling £7,000 per child each year meaning many officials with families on lower grades will also earn more than Mr Cameron

More than 80 per cent of EU officials get a 16 per cent of salary top-up as a perk to compensate them for living in Brussels or Luxembourg for their entire working lives, as well as for household allowances. For an AD11 middle manager, the two allowances are worth more than £1,300 a month

Officials employed before staff reforms in 2004 are also eligible for additional benefits, taking the number of EU civil servants better paid than Mr Cameron to more than 10,000

If you want competent people you have to pay them. One of the problems with British public life is that it is littered with people who couldn't get any other job at the same level because they are not qualified or capable.