How would No Deal Brexit affect you personally?

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What impact would no deal have on your personal circumstances? What is your personal biggest worry?
In my case it is medication which is my biggest concern.

My husband needs medication from Europe to prevent his kidney transplant from rejecting. If his kidney fails he’ll need dialysis. However most the equipment for that comes from Europe, so not just death but a slow and painful one!!

Not the future I had planned for us and our two small children.

I can’t believe so many people are wanting a no deal outcome. I don’t think people are being made aware of the implications. I know the information is out there but I don’t think it’s reaching the right people. Every news story ends with ...but it might be ok, so people cling to that.

Yes - great - they’ve 16 weeks. What then? We haven’t got anywhere in over two years. End of the 16 weeks and we are no further forwards? Excellent.

Yes - great - they’ve 16 weeks. What then? We haven’t got anywhere in over two years. End of the 16 weeks and we are no further forwards? Excellent.

It's a rolling supply - they keep adding to it.

clavinova
It's a rolling supply - they keep adding to it.
You are above this.
A 16 week supply with a known huge gap in top up is not a rolling supply.
Are you really happy that the government are using gagging clauses and dodgy contracts to try to replicate in a socialist centralised manner
the highly efficient free market liberal system that existed before ?

The movers and shakers of Brexit wanted a reduction in bureaucratic control
but we are getting full on hidden central planning
is that progress ?

Cheekysquirrel

Seriously though - instead of fretting and working yourself into a state why don't you contact one of the Diabetes charities for reassurance;
www.telmenow.com/2016/09/4-best-diabetes-charities/

Clavinova what do the charities know that the PM and the rest of parliament do not?

It isn't clear from those links whether the stockpiles of insulin will be held in their country of manufacture or in the UK ? I am hoping a bit of both.

My personal worry is that those with a lot of money eg Jacob Rees-Mogg have stashed it outside of the UK “to mitigate the risks of a no deal Brexit”. This. It tells you everything you need to know about what Brexit means. Those who have no money to stash outside the UK are deluded if they think they won't be affected. The winners will be those who hold money in foreign currencies when the pound plummets - so that rules out most people in Britain.

Novo Nordisk has doubled its insulin stockpile in the UK, amid patients’ fears that a no-deal Brexit could disrupt supplies of the life-saving medicine, its CEO has said

In normal situations Novo Nordisk, the world’s largest producer of insulin, keeps around eight weeks’ supply of the drug stockpiled in the UK at any one time

But because of Brexit this has been doubled to around 16 weeks’ supply, Fruergaard said

He told reporters at a briefing in London: “I get emails with concerns from patients who are asking about how are we going to secure the life-saving insulin that they use on an everyday basis

What we have committed to do is increase our inventory inside the UK – our products are refrigerated so there is a limit to how much you can do. But we are doubling our inventory so we have four months of supply in the UK^ (now 18 weeks supply)

In the event of a “no deal” situation, there will be time to figure out how to get supplies in, Fruergaard said

@SalrycLuxx current Eu residents won’t need to earn the £30k.

Brexit affects me:
Cost of living
I’m 50+ so if lose job I’m screwed
Ds’s father EU National. We’re seperated and I’ve held off divorce to try ensure he can stay but it’s nit doing me any favours. I do not trust the authorities on this (having abandoned the last 80+ page residency application).

I care for my dm and worry about access to her meds.

I think diabetes is one of the areas where preparedness will be most advanced, but I would still be concerned if I was diabetic, because even a low risk of not getting insulin is not a comfortable situation to be in. I don't blame the people who are doing their own stock building (there is Guardian article on this today with an interview with a diabetic who has taken matters into his own hands).

I think government silence is going to backfire badly: it breeds distrust and will make people more likely to think that they are not being told the whole story, which will drive people to build their own stocks. There is massive potential for huge waste of expensive drugs here, another reason why it would be sensible for the government to be a lot more open with the public.

Slightly off topic but can we please stop blaming 'the tories ' for 'causing Brexit '.

Parliament voted overwhelmingly to bring the referendum to the British people. Politicians from both main parties campaigned on both sides of the debate. There are leave and remain constituencies belonging to both Labour and Conservative MPs. Only the Lib Dems have been united on their remain stance (in England anyway; sorry, but I'm not an expert on Scottish or Welsh constituencies).

Lab and Con both elected MPs in 2017 under manifestos which promised to honour the referendum result. If the Labour leader commits his party to a second referendum, at least a dozen front benchers will resign. Both main parties are quite rightly divided on this issue.

This is not a party issue. It is a regional issue. It is a plaster which the nation needed to rip off at some point and this is why it feels sore.

@mellongoose
Slightly off topic but can we please stop blaming 'the tories ' for 'causing Brexit '.
ODFOD
Brexit has been the Tory problem since Thatchers Day
Major called them "the bastards"
and Cameron was dumb enough to call the vote
Brexit is entirely a Tory issue
Corbtn is a Tory mole BTW

It may seem that way but it really isn't. It's a convenient message fed to us by the media. Most of the difficult EU issues have come up under a Conservative government because they have had more years in power in the last 40.

Both main parties are divided. Surely you must see that!

A regional issue? Hahaha ok England can leave and NI Scotland and London can all stay?

Tory infighting started the fire

Most of the difficult EU issues have come up under a Conservative government because they have had more years in power in the last 40.
Which difficult issues would that be ?

Both main parties are divided. Surely you must see that!
LIst the anti EU labour MPs other than the clique of Corbyn, Mcdonnell and Hoey ...

Slightly off topic but can we please stop blaming 'the tories ' for 'causing Brexit '.

We certainly can't, because if Brexit is being implemented incompetently it is the fault of the current government. Which is a Tory government implementing a Tory Brexit.

I dare say a Corbyn Brexit would also be incompetent, but until or unless he gets the opportunity to take his turn at botching Brexit we'll never know.

Mellon in 2010 polling showed EU membership wasn't even in voters top 10 concerns.
No other party has a party within a party dedicated to leave (ERG)

Cameron completely over estimated UKIP's popularity and stole their thunder by promising an EU vote.

The tories are also prepared to have a no deal brexit regardless of its effects on us, again just to appease the ERG.

They are 1000% to blame for brexit.

If the govt revokes A50, what happens next?
Do they go back to the drawing board to come up with a new plan or would it mean we won’t leave the EU?

Honestly we would be fine. I am financially secure and actually get paid in a different currency so lower exchange rate is ok.
Medication required is financed independently and the nature of it means it's stockpiled so wouldn't run out for well over a year.
We all have dual British and Irish passports so if for any reason EU citizenship is required we have it.
However I know a lot of people who wouldn't be so fortunate so I voted remain and continue to hope we can somehow cancel the whole mess.

It may seem that way but it really isn't. It's a convenient message fed to us by the media.

Nonsense. Seem to be a few here tonight trying to deflect from the true causes of the mess we’re all in tonight.

Referendum called by dc to appease rabid right wing elements in his party. Media (sun, mail, torygraph) presented this to the gullible who, galvanised by years of austerity could see a scapegoat to hang their fears/dreams/unicorns onto.

Seems like quite a right wing project, imho. The fact Jc would rather be gardening is another issue but I don’t think that’s what’s been at play.

My mum's diabetic and her brand of insulin is made by one company based in Europe. She's very worried as insulin has a limited shelf life and she can't stockpile it above a couple of months.
I'm sure I'll be busy at work as I work in Youth Offending.
I do think that a no deal Brexit will impact people on lower incomes and I have suspicions that social housing and the welfare state will end imminently.

Death.
I'm type 1 diabetic and on an insulin pump, all my supplies and insulin pump carts are made in Denmark. I imagine many on life saving meds will be queuing up for hours outside pharmacies to get supplies. Tbh, I'm terrified and anyone who wants to dare to tell me to 'calm down' can fuck off!
Of course TM will be ok for her insulin (and her free style libre flash glucose monitor which she wears, where as it is extremely hard for 'us
plebs' to get it on prescription due to postcode lottery).
I don't believe or trust the so called assurances given to us on insulin at all. I have stockpiled some needles, novorapid and levemir insulin to prepare for a no deal scenario, as I suspect my pump supplies will be badly affected and I'll have to go back onto insulin pens, where my blood glucose levels will be severely compromised, which is why I'm on a pump in the first place