How would No Deal Brexit affect you personally?

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What impact would no deal have on your personal circumstances? What is your personal biggest worry?
In my case it is medication which is my biggest concern.

Ah well.
It's a guaranteed civil service pension.
Does that make any difference?

Tbh no point in worrying until if and when it happens.
Make sensible preparations - yes.
Sleepless nights spent worrying - no.

Medication. I'm disabled with a chronic pain illness. It's gradually becoming worse, it was intolerable without medication a few years ago, I dread to think how I'd manage now if I lost access to my prescriptions & OTC medication that the NHS doesn't cover.

Also, because I can't work & DH only recently found a job, we will be screwed if/ when prices go up. Hence, we are stockpiling to a moderate degree. Only stuff we actually use anyway. I will be very happy if Brexit goes very well (or is cancelled) & we don't need it. But I'd rather assume we'll need some spare food, & be wrong, than assume we don't need any, & be wrong.

In the probable event that the UK leaves the EU, the only common law countries left in will be Ireland and Cyprus. This will probably be quite hard on these countries, particularly Ireland, but the idea that the UK couldn't negotiate enough deals on World Trade Organization rules to get basic supplies and medicines from other common law countries is incredible to me. And if the EU wants to try to block this, with the risk of people dying, then I don't think the EU deserves to survive. Realistically, I don't see how they can insist on every lorry in Calais being searched anyway. I know how people feel, but a majority of people voted to leave, and to ignore this is not democracy. If people want to try another vote, OK, but at the moment it doesn't look like it will happen. Leaving is obviously something many people don't want, but will not result in the UK having no friends and allies.

Lizzzar

The voice of reason. I agree wholeheartedly.

Realistically, I don't see how [the EU] can insist on every lorry in Calais being searched anyway.

First, the eu isn’t going to stop us buying things. They will happily continue to sell to us, we will just have to pay relevant tariffs. Yay.

In terms of border crossing, the problem is not them searching all the lorries ( though I note the UK might be the ones insisting on searches due to the fear of hiding immigrants), but it is the customs checks.

In that regard - the EU does most of that electronically (sensibly). But (and here’s the kicker) that UK doesn’t have the necessary systems or staff in place to handle a non-free trade set up. We’ve spent two years fannying around having arguments about what we want to do, rather than making actual practical preparations.

So it won’t be the ‘evil EU’ that causes the problems. Hell, Holland and France have been planning for this - particularly Holland. It will be the utter failure of the UK to organise itself.

Bluntness100 Why would bread rise to a tenner a loaf?
Why would foreign nurse leave the NHS , ( mind you they could all leave anytime anyway )

What WTO means (handy link) m.youtube.com/watch?v=tmtAG4RtAp8

Fearful of brexit and as losing my job was on the horizon, I moved overseas and am paid in a currency pegged to the USD so atm have benefitted. However DS1 will loose his place at a Spanish university in September and I don’t relish the misfortune that will befall so many. Good luck

Apologies - fearful not just any Brexit but a hard Brexit!

Why would foreign nurse leave the NHS

An EU nurse would be considering it for a number of reasons, including the UK hostile environment towards immigrants. Our immigration policies are not ‘nice’ and in fact have the result that people who are working and well integrated into the UK get ‘sent home’ simply because they don’t earn enough to be allowed to stay. Which is farcical as the pay barrier that must be exceeded, as set by the government, is more than the state is actually willing to pay state employees.

If those EU nurses have British kids and British spouses, they run all sorts of risks, as they are at the mercy of governmental whims and incompetence, including having their families split up because ‘mummy’s role is no longer on the shortage professions list, and mummy only earns £23k a year so she’s been told to sling her hook’.

In addition, there will be disruption on a hard Brexit. It’s built into the idea. So why should someone with marketable skills stick around at that point?

I live and work close to the port likely to be most affected; even minimal disruptions or delays will affect both mine and DH's livelihoods, as both our jobs are dependent on ease of access through the port.

DH's employers have already lost several large contracts with European companies

SalrycLuxx I think you will find that the min salary would apply going forward,
What is this hostile environment people keep on about ?
The Nurses etc would not think twice if they could go elsewhere and earn more money, ( don’t blame them ) that’s why they are here anyway, let’s not pretend it’s for the love of the U.K.

LonelyandTiredandLow Still don’t understand why bread will go up 800 % that’s just scaremongering

Eu nurses may have to leave in no deal as they may have no right to stay.

Plus why would they wish to stay, we will be fucked.

Bluntness100 The government has already said in a no deal Brexit their rights will be maintained,
They can leave at anytime and probably would go home regardless if their country offered better terms and conditions

The biggest impact would be the worth of DH's pension that he has worked for during the last 20 years. Also a reduction in our house value. These were to the two main things we have invested in during the last 20 years.

No deal Brexit : short term

• supply issues with foods, medicines, parts for all manufacturing, retail
• steep price rises due to gouging in parts of all the above sectors
• many large industrial suppliers putting staff on short hours

No deal Brexit : long term

• as the UK will no longer be a gateway to Europe, LOTS of big industry moving out
• without free movement, chronic labour shortages in agriculture so prices rising significantly
• massive staff shortages in care homes and the NHS as workers will not earn enough to get visas so will stay away
• austerity continuing for decades
• the USA and China screwing the UK over on trade deals and destroying the agriculture business

I'm OK though as tax returns will still have to be done

It won't affect me at all.

I think people need to stop with the scaremongering. We are the UK. We won't be dying on the streets due to not getting medication.

I'm also hoping it leads to another Scottish referendum.

I have already been affected (financial services) - my team moved back to Paris last year because our organisation didn't want to take the risk of what we do being left out of the single market for service and I didn't want to move because of DH's job and the kids' school. I also couldn't have been promoted because for regulatory reasons I would have to have been working from our Paris office and employed by our French company, so working remotely wasn't a long term solution either.

Since I am now at home we no longer need our cleaner, nanny, gardener, dog walker, cut back on hair and beauty appointments, eating out, holiday (domestic) and basically tightening our belts while I try and find something else (no one is hiring at the moment while everyone waits to see what will happen). We were even going to get a new car this year and replace our petrol car with a Nissan Leaf (produced in Sunderland) - we have cancelled that now. I'm not throwing a pity party and we will be fine but it was eye-opening seeing the knock-on effects for others as well as for us as I gave notice to all these people who had enabled me to do my job before.

Ta1kinPeace Both Dover and Calais have said they don’t expect any hold ups, where will the food shortages come from, flights will still taking off and landing

There is nothing miraculous about being in the UK, look at countries like Argentina.
The government will work to source medication but the cost of that could soar. Look at how much medication costs in the US. If we are paying four times more for it we are going to have medical shortages somewhere to cover that bill.
Increased food costs will impact everyone.
I also think that a second Scottish ref becomes much more likely but because of the experience of a hard Brexit not as a coincidence.

Hesta54
Both Dover and Calais have said they don’t expect any hold ups, where will the food shortages come from, flights will still taking off and landing
Link please

Someone should have told Grayling there aren't going to be hold ups, he didn't need to practise that lorry jam of his !