How would No Deal Brexit affect you personally?

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What impact would no deal have on your personal circumstances? What is your personal biggest worry?
In my case it is medication which is my biggest concern.

It would be a lot easier to leave if we’d developed a long term strategy that meant we were prepared to be self sufficient for a reasonable amount of time while we formed new trading relationships.

The world isn’t the way it was pre-EU. We can’t go back to that time with that structure. We live in a global world. We can’t compete with companies that produce a lot as we can’t get our costs as low as those that pay peanuts to workers.

Taking back control is a total myth.

For so many reasons. I never know whether to laugh or cry when I see a vox pop piece on the news with an average man in the street going on about "taking back control of our country". You never had control or even influence mate, and never will, nor will I.

Not sure how so many posters believe that it won’t effect them?

Gridlock and imports = food prices up 10+%
Businesses going bust = rise in unemployment - even if your job isn’t directly affected then it will mean more of your tax going on benefits and less tax income for government to spend and less to road, NHS, schools etc.
House prices crashing might sound great but if banks stop lending and interest rates rise then they will still be unaffordable. A recession will kill any house building and the basic problem of the housing crisis won’t be solved.
There seems to be a misconception that we will ‘just’ go onto WTO rules -“like we do with the rest of the world anyway” This is a load of bollocks - we trade with over 90% of the ‘rest of the world’ using favourable tariffs on agreements which we have as part of our EU membership.

Not even looking at the idea that around 60% of current trade is with the EU...

Having said all this I very much doubt anyone who has said they want No Deal will have bothered to RTWT... nevermind this whole post.

Facts really don’t seem to carry any weight at all. I just wish people would realise that this isn’t an episode of the x factor and that just wanting something is not enough.

iam I think it depends what you mean by 'not affected'. We will all be affected, but perhaps not to the point of noticing any real 'impact'.

I think there are two groups who won't notice, the undeservedly affluent (myself included) and the already below the poverty line poor.

Food prices would have to triple before I noticed or clocked it as something to worry about, and if you are already getting your meals at the foodbank then food prices don't affect you either.

I might well lose my job as a knock on consequence of Brexit but at the moment, I'm not sure I wouldn't welcome the push. At least it wouldn't be my fault my career was trashed....I didn't vote for this shit.

I can see both sides of Brexit - when it came to the ref I put a great deal of thought into my (Leave) vote. My head was saying maybe remain but my heart was saying leave.

I think the lack of preparation was partly down to the fact that everyone assumed remain would win the day. Nobody expected leave to win, I know I didn't. Like Trump winning in the US, nobody predicted it and I no longer have any trust in opinion polls.

I don't envy TM one iota. She's in an impossible position now as whatever happens the country is fractured and weakened as a result.

I don't regret my vote but I sincerely regret the way the government is handling it.

the undeservedly affluent (myself included)

Of course you will notice. You'll notice when oil companies need to start prioritising power plants over hauliers, you'll notice when someone you love, even maybe yourself, needs medical help and can't get it because of the huge waiting times, you'll notice when the supermarket shelves are running empty, when your children or family lose their jobs. You'll notice when your pound crashes and your utilities, if they still operate cost three times as much. How could you not notice?

if you are already getting your meals at the foodbank then food prices don't affect you either.

You didn’t actually mean this seriously?

If food prices go up, people aren’t going to be able to afford to donate as much. Volunteers may need to do more paid work to make ends meet and not be free to facilitate the foodbank service. Where will the foodbank food come from then?

I think the lack of preparation was partly down to the fact that everyone assumed remain would win the day.

We have had two and a half years to prepare.

I cannot understand the logic of voting for something with such serious consequences without knowing that plans were in place or at least workable.

That’s a significant part of why I voted to remain. I wasn’t willing to plunge the country into a potentially catastrophic unknown.

Bluntness since you are still clearly on this thread, would you be kind enough to answer my earlier question?

Why do you think all the EU nurses will leave?

Why do you think that rents and mortgage rates will become 'astronomical'?

DarienGap
Leaving the EU is easy if you are willing to give up all the perks.

I'd challenge the word 'perks' *ta1kinpeace', there are plenty of people willing to sacrifice 'frills' for 'sovereignty and control'. No it's not perks, it's essentials we're talking about getting rid of.

it's essentials we're talking about getting rid of
Cool.
Your choice.

I didn't mean that in a good way! I'm appalled we're about to get rid of really essential structures, destroy the fabric of this country to appease a few hard core leavers!!
And it was absolutely NOT my choice!

Quiet
I've started a sweepstake for A50 revoke day
I'm saying 24th March

at one NHS Trust 20 % of the European staff have already left and gone home, this is due to the uncertainty.

they are just as unclear/uncertain and anxious as we are.
They don't know if they will be allowed to stay, for how long, under what criteria....will they still be entitled to healthcare, benefits, free school for children etc etc

so many opting to go home now rather than wait and find out..

The number of nurses registering from overseas has fallen substantially from last year from 8,800 to 3,500.
This has been driven by a fall in the number of EU nurse registrants which has dropped by 87% from 6,400 in 2016/17 to 800 in 2017/18. The Republic of Ireland is now the main source of new nurses recruited from within the EU, while numbers registering from the main EU sources in previous years have dropped ten-fold since 2016.
Source The Health Foundation

Nursing numbers from EU are dropping significantly and rapidly. kirsty

Not all bad news though - NMC press release;
7 November 2018
Nursing and midwifery numbers rising

The number of nurses and midwives registered to work in the UK increased by almost 4,000 in the past twelve months, according to latest figures from the Nursing and Midwifery Council (NMC).

At the end of September there were 693,618 nurses and midwives registered to work in the UK – the highest September level in recent years

The increase has been driven by a rise in UK trained nurses and midwives and those trained outside the EU

The number of people trained in the UK and registered to work has increased by 3,457 over the last twelve months. While numbers from outside the EU have increased by 2,808

Latest figures also show that the number of people on the register from the EU continues to decline with 2,385 fewer nurses and midwives registered to work. Despite this decline, the overall number of EU nurses and midwives remains well above pre-2015 levels

The number of midwives registered to work in the UK is continuing to rise – with the last five years seeing a modest year on year increase

www.nmc.org.uk/news/press-releases/nursing-and-midwifery-numbers-rising/

No one is fully reliant on foidbanks. You have to be given a voucher and can only have so many a year, I think it's three or four. So in between times you would be buying pricier food like everyone else. If you are already struggling to make ends meet to the point where you need a food bank then rising prices are going to hit you hardest.

{Taking back control is a total myth.}
Yes, the UK government who are steering Brexit will be in absolutely full control. While that might sound great, the UK gov have not had to actually 'control' much since WW2 in the sense of very serious life threatening decisions.
The Gulf war was not being fought on British soil, a MAJOR factor.

Clavinova

The reason more foreign nurses can apply to register is because they've altered or removed english language tests and what can be accepted as evidence of good english skills.

If the UK is taking nurses from the developing world, that shouldn't be something we should be crowing about, unless they are here for experience only and will return.

We need to reinstate bursaries and reduce the 42% drop out rate of uk nurses before they graduate.

My DD tells me a single mum on her course will have to quit after her housing benefit has been cut, she cannot afford to stay on the course... what a waste, so much for encouraging women to better themselves.

Clerc what is your view on re-instating nursing bursaries? Lots of posters on this thread have a view and, given you have so many views about what is happening and what will happen in the UK and the people that live there - thought you might like to add?

My business will be seriously affected. We import and export and the WTO tariffs would see us go under I think. Putting two people plus myself and my husband out of a job. I'm quite scared.

Bright, intelligent, enthusiastic British students can't train to be nurses because they don't have a 4 in English GCSE.

Michael Gove we have so much to thank you for.

Bastard.

{Clerc what is your view on re-instating nursing bursaries? Lots of posters on this thread have a view and, given you have so many views about what is happening and what will happen in the UK and the people that live there - thought you might like to add?}

Thank you for mentioning this:
I actually posted on a different themed thread last week I think.
Since a significant chunk of industry is likely to leave it is obvious something radical will have to happen. My suggestion was that as the UK had a good reputation for medical training that there should be a MASSIVE expansion of medical training, highly subsidised for medics and accepting something like double what the UK needs (couple of hundred thousand?). This way the UK could get the NHS back on track and trained medics can be 'released into the wild' and make some reparations for the disgusting attitude of UK government that thinks it is moral to take medical staff from developing and third world countries. This would be far preferable to supporting failing industry like the old steelworks which are undercut by China etc.
It also gives work for the building trade for classrooms, training theatres and of course accommodation which could be based on the idea of reasonable size flats so that for example couples with 1 child can live economically. Singles as well, a mix of accommodation.
Could be part funded by the 'overseas aid' budget.

And an expansion of cottage hospitals perhaps co sited with decent provision for the elderly, possibly like sheltered accommodation villages. A 'medical' centre located close but also serving the community around.
Warm comfortable and safe housing for elderly couples or singles with common areas included. The elderly need an option of safety and healthy homes and new build with design that allows them to be private or sociable is essential.