How would No Deal Brexit affect you personally?

[Puddelchen]

What impact would no deal have on your personal circumstances? What is your personal biggest worry?
In my case it is medication which is my biggest concern.

I'm a lone parent and only just getting by. My childcare is expensive and I rely on tax credits. If I lose my job im in financial difficulty almost immediately. If I default on my creditors I can't get a job in my industry for at least 6 years. The industry I've worked in for most of my adult life. I'm so worried about the impact of the price of living going up, tax credits getting cut, possible redundancy. I'm losing sleep over the whole thing

I have a T1 diabetic niece in the US. It has been an eye opener. Not too many T1s of May's age out there.

@Dariengap
If the govt revokes A50, what happens next?
Do they go back to the drawing board to come up with a new plan or would it mean we won’t leave the EU?
So long as Revoke is done by TM by a private letter to the EU, no more before 11pm on the 29th March
its like waking up after a bad dream
we are as if the vote never happened
everything reverts back to sensible

with all the cushy deals the UK always had

It's effect will be negligible tbh. Our business won't be massively impacted, neither will our sector.
We try to keep travel to Europe to a minimum for environmental reasons, and we don't have any medication needs that will be affected.

TalkinPeace
I think it would be a disgrace to ignore the result of the ref.

I think it would be a disgrace to ignore the result of the ref.

We have spent 2.5 years trying to implement the result of the ref. Hardly ignoring.

I was replying to TalkinPeace “we are as if the vote never happened” should A50 be revoked

Darien, Talkin was referring to our special terms and preferential conditions not changing.

{So long as Revoke is done by TM by a private letter to the EU, no more before 11pm on the 29th March
its like waking up after a bad dream
we are as if the vote never happened
everything reverts back to sensible
with all the cushy deals the UK always had}

Yes in many ways, but all companies that have started to made their move to Europe will probably be gone. Having moved once, and having witnessed the fickle way of the UK government there will be no incentive to attempt to come back. Obviously it would be nothing like the 'no deal' scenario, or even the WA. The WA is still the only 'negotiated' exit method, or something that ultimately would be very similar.

{I think it would be a disgrace to ignore the result of the ref.}
Admitting it is too difficult and expensive to leave is not a disgrace it is pragmatic.
Don't forget that so far no one has suggested HOW the UK could really be better off outside the EU when you consider the way the world works these days with global corporations effectively running some small countries (not the UK yet). Any 'deals' for food and goods from the EU will not be as good as we have now by definition unless we stay as full members.

I appreciate the replies. I really enjoy the ‘mostly!’ calm exchange of views on here.
I suppose what worries me, irt those saying it’s too difficult to leave, is that we have gone past the point of no return and can never leave the EU. Is that really the case?

It isn't too difficult to leave but it would entail a concerted effort on the part of the government and that has been wilfully lacking.

imo the government should never have offered a referendum without compiling the relevant white papers, risk assesments and projections for at least three eventualities: leave (with no deal); leave with customs' arrangement and FOM; remain. It's easy to pretend that remain meant the status quo but the EU has never been static so staying should have been risk assessed too.

I'm also a bit scared of indyref 2 tbh. I say that as a former AYE voter. The retail bank I work for would relocate south in the event of avyes vote. They've made that clear. Although I think there's a lot of very sound reasons for voting for independence, I also don't think that the economic argument was made last time and this current shitshow has given me the fear

The Referendum was won on lies and cheating. Vote Leave even campaigned on the day after Jo Cox's death when a suspension of campaigning had been agreed. Scare mongering about immigration and lies about money for the NHS which many people believed. Let alone the significant evidence of Russian interference in this and the US elections (I wonder why?!)

There us absolutely No Honour in pusuingvthe result of that Advisory referendum but our politicians and leaders are too cowardly, dishonest and self-interest to say so. Shame on them.

If we did want to leave the EU, Darien then agreeing in Parliament what our position would be for leaving, so what kind of Brexit was wanted before we triggered article 50 would be a start.
Getting a cross party consensus about what the difficulties were and how they could mitigated would also help.
Perhaps doing some longer term planning around home grown nurses etc before starting.
No political grouping is timeless but if it is very difficult to leave it suggests to me the group's time isn't up yet.

Clavinova I couldn't see the information you posted at 21.31 in the first links you posted.(possibly due to slight technical issues my end ) But the information you posted at 21.31 is reassuring.
You would think the Department of health and social care would be shouting this from the rooftops ?

We are all affected personally by a no Deal Brexit because we all eat food. Bought from shops. Who will struggle to maintain consistent supply (that's putting it nicely) due to inevitable food supply distribution problems. It boils down to that, op.

Yes, food issues will affect us all. Sadly for so many, as these replies show us, there are extra concerns re jobs, medication etc. My medication issues are not life threatening but some people’s are, a horrific situation to be in. Even if things turn out to be all right in the end, the anxiety some people have been put through is awful.

In Ireland we're already seeing a lot of people moving here from the UK or planning to, which will put a strain on our crumbling infrastructure and inadequate housing supply. Businesses will move here so it's a boon for the jobs market, but the housing issue is the most difficult at the moment; it's an actual crisis in Dublin.

I don't go to Northern Ireland very often but am old enough to remember the heavily armed soldiers at border checkpoints. I'm worried about the effects of a hard border and can't picture what that would look like.

I'm angry at the high-handed arrogance with which we've been treated in this, and how we were never considered at all to begin with.

There are still idiots who think No Deal won't affect them personally because they don't have health problems and they don't work for or own businesses that trade internationally. But all these stupid idiots eat.
I don't call Leavers stupid but I will call No Dealers stupid. Because it is stupid.

Well, so far, the panic buying hasn't affected my weekly shop so I'm grateful for that. My husband's business should be fine, people will still need him. If mine isn't, we are owned by a huge overseas corporation (not EU) and I would get a good redundancy package to keep me going a while. Where I live, we have a lot of local trade re: the food industry so I would like to think I would focus on sourcing more local produce and cut back on eating shit because I won't have a choice. I genuinely feel like I'd make the best of a bad situation (if it actually happens). The NHS is my biggest concern but that all depends on how much of a priority the govt make it.

Food is an obvious and immediate short term one. I think people fail to recognise the longer term impacts. If, as predicted, GDP falls by 9% that will mean huge cuts for all public services. Lack of investment in education, health care, crime prevention etc isn’t going to make anything better. In fact it’s going to make the problems that lead to the Leave vote even bigger.

Taking back control is a total myth.

I don’t think we should ignore the vote. It was clearly a big message that needed to be heard. I remain unconvinced that leaving is actually the solution to the reasons people voted to leave.

DarienGap The way I saw it was that it was always going to be a lot easier to stay than leave, especially given there were no real plans on how to do so or consensus in parliament on how to do so. Then they triggered Article 50. 69 days to go. We have the WA that doesn't appear to be very popular, to put it mildly. Planning for no deal is woefully inadequate and losing ground as an option in opinion polls. Revoke is still an option, although I appreciate not popular with yourself

Even if this whole shambles did result in no Brexit, nobody can say with absolute certainty that there would never be another vote on this subject in the future.