Can we have a list of all the things we will be able to do once outside the E.U. that we can’t do now

[Bearbehind]

With 11 weeks to go this should be easy but it’s clear from other threads that people still think things that have nothing to do with the E.U. will change when we leave.

Can we have a list of tangible positive things that can only happen by leaving.

Not sure how well oranges, bananas and rice grow in the UK.

We could just continue to import from outside the EU like we do now. Not sure that there is much banana production in Europe.

Communities in the U.K. shouldn't be abandoned. A country is not just about jobs it is about working together, families, friends and the strength in unity.

Neighbours and neighbourhood make up communities that make up society.

If we try to separate these we may have jobs but we lose an awful lot more.

People should have the opportunity to travel but it shouldn't be forced. We need to work together to make society work for everybody.

{Wow, just wow. I didn't think that there were people who honestly thought like that.}
Fortunately I am just a 'random' on the internet.
The bad news for you is that you have voted to keep several hundred with similar views in government which ought to worry you.
They didn't listen and haven't helped you before, and they are not about to now, especially as they have just wasted billions on Brexit planning.

And you know what? Let's see how well Spain, Portugal and Greece like the EU ostracising us when their tourist industry collapses because we don't go there on holiday any more.

I work with plenty of people who arrived in the U.K. in very distressing circumstances. It's not the cost of the fare that is the issue it's the lack of a passport.

Leaving the EU is the biggest change this country has seen since WW2.

As ever you are massively oversimplyfying things surfer

Those who voted for changes in areas which fall under domestic government policy should not have tried to achieve this via a vote about the E.U.

Even if that wasn’t clear then, it bloody well should be now.

{And you know what? Let's see how well Spain, Portugal and Greece like the EU ostracising us when their tourist industry collapses because we don't go there on holiday any more}
Yes, your inappropriate misdirected actions will mean that the tourist industry in Europe will take a hit. When it is revealed how bad it is there is a chance that the EU will help out although getting the brochures printed in Chinese and other languages will be a start. The loss in the EU is likely to be similar to 2008 bank crash. The UK will suffer about 10 times worse.

I'll be able to go outside and take a great big lungful of dirty great British air without the EU court sticking their nose in and forcing us to clean it up. Looking forward to the good old days returning when we could swim in great British suridge and sanitary towels before the EU made us clean it but. We can be the dirty man of Europe again.

Looking forward to the whole world pointing and laughing at what fools we are, actually, that's something I can already enjoy. Oh, what great times to come. Rule Britannia!

All I see from remainers on here are arguments about wanting to work in Europe, or their children's opportunities in Europe, or the potential loss of Erasmus - these benefits simply are not of any relevance to many families in the UK

Why aren't they? why exactly shouldn't a "working class" family want something better for their kids?
There is a family nr me who are farm workers in a tied cottage, i know the dad cannot read but their son was in Limoge studying some sort of foreign journalism.
My friends son had a job offer of being a bicycle mechanic in Majorca, the job offer was withdrawn just before xmas, it would have been his first employment after doing a self funded training course, he left school with few qualifications.

If you expect the state to do it all for you, you will get no-where, families should where at all possible hold out for a bit more than they themselves got out of life

My brother lives in German and brexit hardly makes the news there.

Yes but it won't be Germany that bears the brunt will it?

Take a look at the effect of the UK banning flights to Sharm - El - Sheikh. If Spain et al don't need British tourists then fantastic. They won't be affected. Not entirely sure that's the case though.

And where will we go on holiday - err the rest of the world? Or, yes, the UK.

I work with plenty of people who arrived in the U.K. in very distressing circumstances. It's not the cost of the fare that is the issue it's the lack of a passport.

My point was made in referencing to a PP advising the unemployed of the UK to "get off their arses and look for work in the EU". People living in a hostel on UC are unlikely to have money to pay their fare to the EU, or, possibly won't have the £80 odd to get a passport.

jasjas1973

There will always be people who triumph - my dad came from a very, very poor WC background. Left school at 15 with no qualifications. Retired at age 53 having been a very senior manager for an international bank. I want to see opportunities for everyone. But even here in the UK, supporting your child through university costs money. (upfront, not through loans). God knows how much money you need to support someone living abroad.

Like I said when you are desperate £200 quid for a passport and the journey isn't hard to steal or borrow.

People should be allowed and encouraged to travel - if the want to.

People should be allowed to stay in their communities and work - if they want to.

One is not more important than the other. Within the EU we have a choice.

The ferry is about £30 as a foot passenger.
There seems to be a lot of excuses as to why people can't do things.
If life is bad, camp out on your MPs doorstep until they listen.
So much complaining that 'others' aren't doing anything for 'you'.

{ But even here in the UK, supporting your child through university costs money.}
Thanks to voting leave the door to university education in the EU is risking being slammed shut. Thanks leavers.

One is not more important than the other. Within the EU we have a choice.
Some people have a choice.

No I don't think a solution to poverty in the UK is to encourage someone to steal £200 to get a passport. And then what? Just imagine you get a passport and somehow get to the EU? Where do you live while you try to find a job? On the streets with your children? Maybe in the Calais jungle because obviously there are just so many opportunities over there at the moment for those people who have nothing and no support.

Moving to and working in the EU are great opportunities for many people, but not everyone by a long shot and not the very people that a certain PP is talking about (the ones whose benefits are paid by their taxes!)

You could always swim. Just think of the exercise you would get.

Not sure that there is much banana production in Europe.

Bananas are grown in the Canary Islands. According to my mother the nasty EU stopped them being imported to the UK and that’s one of the reasons she voted Leave

Thanks to voting leave the door to university education in the EU is risking being slammed shut. Thanks leavers.

How many students from the UK study in the EU? And why does it have to stop anyway? We can study in the US if we want to. Why can't EU students still study here or UK students go to EU universities? Develop reciprocal arrangements.

It's a cycle of deprivation. Like a community wide depression. Some individuals can and do escape but it becomes self fulfilling for many.

It is very easy to say "just get on with it" like telling people with depression to "pull themselves together". In reality it isn't that easy.

Deprivation can be learnt behaviour. The white working class attitude to education is especially insidious and when you map it onto leave voting areas is clear.

We need systematic, long term policies. Labour was starting to address some of the issue with Sure Start Centres but the solutions take decades and need to be combined with infrastructure investment.

We can turn around deprived communities and that would benefit the whole country but it takes investment at the beginning (it will pay off in the long run) and it is a long term plan and someone has got to care enough.

Oh and the failure to invest in communities is nothing to do with the EU and will not be improved by leaving.

Moussemoose

Exactly. The answer is not simply to tell these people to hop on a ferry and find work in the EU.

Oh and the failure to invest in communities is nothing to do with the EU and will not be improved by leaving.

It isn't the fault of the EU, no. But us being in the EU gave governments something to hide behind to blame their inaction on and as I, and others have said, the long term ignoring of these people led them to vote leave because it offered a chance of things being different.