Can we have a list of all the things we will be able to do once outside the E.U. that we can’t do now

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With 11 weeks to go this should be easy but it’s clear from other threads that people still think things that have nothing to do with the E.U. will change when we leave.

Can we have a list of tangible positive things that can only happen by leaving.

If we crash out with no deal.
In a few years time if we ask to rejoin would we have to sign up to the Euro?

The people I knew who went fruit picking weren't picking the local fruits. Oh no, it was grape picking in the south of France. I dare say they thought it would be pleasanter that fruit picking in the rain in the UK, but under a hot blazing sun, maybe not. I don't remember anyone going back for a second holiday fruit picking.

"Do you even know what you are talking about."

Yes actually, seasonal work during summer holidays of local youths doesn't suit modern farming practices.

The season starts later and lasts longer than it did in years gone by, the volumes processed are far higher too.

The seasonal nature of the work also doesn't work for many of the locals.

You honesty think it is ok for a company based in this country to refuse to employ people from this country for a specific job?

The other farm up the road a way employs many British people for seasonal work. Uni students home for the summer, unemployed people, people looking for extra money, mums in school hours. They also refuse to sell any Tiptree products in their shop

"You honesty think it is ok for a company based in this country to refuse to employ people from this country for a specific job? "

That's private business, their decisions their choice.

Only migrants no natives
I’m sure you are well aware of that

This may be the case now. Who is dictating the policy though? It will be company policy, with Directors dazzled by £ signs in their eyes. Time and time again problems which people lay at the door of the EU turn out to be policies which came from Westminster.

Did your parents not go on fruit picking holidays as teens? Work the local farms etc? Do you even know what you are talking about.

They did in the 1930s, after that they were a bit busy doing, you know, war stuff.

BINGO

Let me guess, we’re lazy and don’t work hard?

Oh, you really are that predictable.

No, rather that the company has a reliable, flexible and trained workforce with a 70% return rate.

8.30-4.30 Monday to Friday

May/June/July and a bit of August

Hardly an all year operation and not unlike the season past. Bit longer maybe but not a huge difference at all

"May/June/July and a bit of August"

So doesn't suit students at all? No university or school is finished in May.

Nor does it suit the local unemployed.

@Buteo, your parents were teenagers in the 1930s? I’m going to guess you aren’t far off retirement age yourself then. So you don’t have any skin in the game so to speak.

I get the feeling quite a few people really have no love or respect for the WC in this country. In fact you seem to actively dislike us. When we’re not cleaning your houses or bringing you your meal to the table anyway.

Anyhoo, I’m off to work. Minimum wage naturally

Back in the 70s I worked with a woman who had always done seasonal work and enjoyed it, with one of the local orchards. Once her husband became ill and she had to support him, she had to find a year round job - seasonal work being OK as an extra when there was one good wage earner, no good if not.

@Glitterinmykeyboard , my parents were teenagers in the war. In fact my Dad served in the war. I'm ages off retirement. Fucking insulting to suggest I have no skin in the game. My 11 year old daughter does as well.

I think workers rights will be significantly reduced gradually but i think the eu is a big market so our stuff we produce will still meet eu legislation.

I think you are barking up the wrong tree glitter. If you think the current Tory Government has any love for the Working classes, then dream on. If you think it's all the fault of the EU, then ask yourself why Germany doesn't have zero hours contracts and a gig economy.

BTW the local farms now all seem to be PYO & car boot sales. Most of the orchards have been grubbed up.

Not read the full thread but the main one is that a large number of Tory MPs hate the Social Chapter of the EU and want us out so that they can reduce employment rights. A Labour government will reinstate them but as soon as the Tories get in they set about reducing them again. Evidence: more or less the first thing the Coalition government did in 2010 was to increase the waiting period for an unfair dismissal case from one year's service with an employer to two. And that was with the Libdems in tow. Imagine what a Tory government could do without the pesky Libdems or indeed the EU interfering.

That was one of the main reasons I voted to stay in the EU.

i think the eu is a big market so our stuff we produce will still meet eu legislation.

In the short term we might get away with it, but soon as an EU law changes that would be when the requirements for documentation will kick in. As a third country there is nothing to say that our laws will have kept in step with the EU.

There needs to be a new word like mansplaining. Except not for men but for when the MC explain to the WC why we should be happy with our lot because it’s for the greater good. Whilst our lot doesn’t impact on them of course.

Your parents were teenagers in the 30s and during the whole war?

Let’s say he was 20 in 1945. And for arguments sake he was 50 when he had you. That’s you born in 1975. Making you 43 now? Fair enough. Although a bit of a stretch. But I guess your children won’t be relying on seasonal work to get by.

Leaving the EU doesn’t mean we are stuck with the Tories long term. In fact after this shit show and UC I don’t think we’ll be seeing them for a long time as long as labour get their act together and get rid of that idiot.

Buteo, your parents were teenagers in the 1930s? I’m going to guess you aren’t far off retirement age yourself then. So you don’t have any skin in the game so to speak.

That's quite an assumption. I'm actually quite a long way off retirement and have plenty of skin in the game, having reasonably young DC that means we're probably tied to the UK for the foreseeable.

Although a bit of a stretch

Not a stretch at all. For instance, my friend's dad was born in 1905 and was 65 when my friend was born. So he was actually 40 at the end of the war.

Oh, and my eldest DS does do seasonal work, it's how he pays for college.

Seasonal work which he is allowed to do even though he’s British....

Would he be fine if he could no longer do it?

I can't see that anyone has said that WC people should be exploited. It's wrong, and it will be as wrong whether it's British, E European or Rest of the World workers. What we have said is that you should be addressing your complaints to Westminster. What do men like Johnson and Deadwood Redwood, Rees-Mogg or Fox know about the day to day efforts of the majority to keep a roof over their heads, or put food on the table?

I don't doubt that May herself works hard at what she does, but she belongs to a very limited southern England Tory set, that really don't have much idea how substantial parts of the country live.

Oh, and 43 is at least 24 years off retirement.

Seasonal work which he is allowed to do even though he’s British....

Funnily enough, he works alongside a wide range of nationalities, the one thing they have in common is that they all have a particular skillset.

Well I voted remain but this:

What we have said is that you should be addressing your complaints to Westminster

...is fucking hilarious.