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Corbyn - We can't stop Brexit

303 replies

SoloD · 10/11/2018 10:05

Corbyn (just let me remind you all that his highest educational attainment was two Es at A level) has been interviewed by a German Newspaper Der Speigel.

In it he was asked about Brexit, his response was this.

“We can’t stop it,” he said. “The referendum took place. Article 50 has been triggered. What we can do is recognize the reasons why people voted Leave.”

Leaving aside the fact that yes we can stop Brexit at any time. Does that not clearly show where his thinking is that. He is a Brexiteer, he is on the same side as Farage, JRM, Boris etc. And we will do serious damage to this country AGAINST the wish of the majority of people.

The question is what will Labour MPs do?

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smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 11/11/2018 20:57

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Talkinpeece · 11/11/2018 21:01

40 year old A level grades are an irrelevance.

Corbyn is a narrow minded slow thinking person who has NEVER worked in a job where he could face redundancy or competition.

his own constituency voted MASSIVELY for remain
and yet he ignores their views and stays pro Brexit

Mistigri · 11/11/2018 21:03

Oxford is not just a good university. It's a world class university

This is true, but I think you underestimate the extent to which certain colleges were an old boys' club in the 1980s.

Neither of them went further than a first degree and Johnson didn't get a first. He's well educated and clearly not stupid but he has spent his entire life using his gift for saying superficially clever things to hide the lack of depth in his analysis. He's also lazy.

jasjas1973 · 11/11/2018 21:04

@moredoll

Your argument falls down with Raab, went to Oxford.... but fails to realise the importance of Dover to UK exports... a lot of critical thinking went into that.
I'm sure Cameron also thought long and hard before performing a sex act with a dead pig.

I think you are over estimating the importance of education in regards to someones character.

dapplegrey · 11/11/2018 21:08

Jasjas is there real evidence that Cameron performed a sex act with a pig or was it an invented story to discredit him?

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moredoll · 11/11/2018 21:13

But jeremy corbyn's character is not a point in his favour.
He is blinkered, obstinate, misogynistic, anti-semitic and unwilling or unable to accept that his vision might be wrong. His vanity is overpowering.

I take your point about Raab.
Indeed as it happens I don't think all people who leave school without A-levels or don't go to university are devoid of critical and analytical skills, but jeremy corbyn certainly is.

Bearbehind · 11/11/2018 21:23

There are an awful lot of people who need to be taken to account over Brexit and Corbyn is most certainly one of them.

Those defending him never cease to amaze me.

jasjas1973 · 11/11/2018 21:28

dapplegrey

He was a member of the Piers Gaveston society, known for its antics with pigs and other such shenanigans DC never sought to sue.

Personally, its the rumour he destroyed a £50 note in front of a homeless man that is rather more insightful, what he did with his xxxx and a pig as part of a ceremony is minor in comparison.

Peregrina · 11/11/2018 21:29

Raab is a grammar school boy, so won't have learnt the smooth oily charm of the Old Etonians. Didn't the Bullingdon set regard Osborne as an 'oik' because he only went to St Pauls? Which in those days was probably more academic than Eton.

jasjas1973 · 11/11/2018 21:31

Ah young Bear, we meet again!

If you can point to one factual thing JC could have done that would have stopped Brexit, i will concede.

bellinisurge · 11/11/2018 21:31

So Cameron being a gitty rich boy proves what about Corbyn? Corbyn discredits himself with plenty of other things he does and has done. I don't give a shiny one about Cameron. I was a solid Labour voter and had been since the mid 80s until Corbyn and his little wizards took over.

Bearbehind · 11/11/2018 21:33

If you can point to one factual thing JC could have done that would have stopped Brexit, i will concede.

He could have provided some actual ‘oppostion’ to it.

You know, that thing he should be doing on account of the fact he is leader of the opposition.

Instead he has let this all play out because he actually want to leave anyway.

bellinisurge · 11/11/2018 21:34

Corbyn could have shared a platform with Cameron and said, Brexit is so shit I'm prepared to share a platform with this dick wipe to oppose it.
Corbyn could, now, take a principled stand (he loves those) and get an emergency vote to stop Brexit in Parliament. Bet he'd get cross party support. Can he do this? I dunno but I know to fuck that I can't.

McWilde · 11/11/2018 21:35

Corbyn reminds me of the High Sparrow from Game of Thrones.
Principled at first glance, but unbending, fervent in his views and unable to listen to reason.
I can imagine he is very pleased the way Brexit is going.

bellinisurge · 11/11/2018 21:41

"Will of the people"? Will of a small majority of the people who bothered to turn up who had some misplaced notion of giving Cameron a bloody nose.
And he can't try and change that? How shit is he?

jasjas1973 · 11/11/2018 21:42

All could be's and if's... no evidence that Corbyn could have stopped Brexit.
Leave won by 1.4million votes, most leavers had a view on the EU that was made over several years, the over 60s would have switched channels the moment Corbyn started speaking!

The blame for brexit (before the actual vote) lies solely with those who voted in the Tories/DC and their manifesto promise to hold a vote.

Bearbehind · 11/11/2018 21:45

All could be's and if's... no evidence that Corbyn could have stopped Brexit.

But the point is he didn’t fucking try.

He didn’t even make any attempt to oppose it.

Because he actually wants to leave the EU anyway.

I’m astounded by your devotion to a man who has done nothing to deserve it.

bellinisurge · 11/11/2018 21:46

It's not that he didn't stop it, it's that he didn't try.
And I blame every single person who voted Leave. I know and even love some of them.
Your efforts to make this a party political thing @jasjas1973 are laudable but it isn't.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 11/11/2018 21:51

But the point is he didn’t fucking try.

Have you ever considered that Labour's policies under Corbyn appeal to people? Its not all about Brexit.

Lament the fact the Lib Dems couldn't gain ground in last years election. Lament the fact that May's misjudgement led the Tories to lose their working majority and become reliant on the DUP. Remarkable how people forget it is the border issue than has hamstrung May. Without being reliant on the DUP a sea border would have been more feasible and presented some opportunity for a "sane" Brexit.

Also consider that the more people attack Corbyn over trivial things (like the size of his poppy FFS) the more inclined people will be to defend him.

bellinisurge · 11/11/2018 21:52

Where I live is solid Labour. As in a super safe seat. And solid Leave. Riddle me that one?

jasjas1973 · 11/11/2018 21:53

Jeez!!! of course its a party political thing, it was only the Tories (of mainstream parties) that had a referendum in their manifesto...no one else.
And it is ONLY the Tories that can stop it, May could do it right now.

In regard to who supports leave and remain, that crosses all party lines, families & friend groups etc.

woman11017 · 11/11/2018 21:53

Corbyn and crew are desperate to get his hands on the extremist Withdrawal Act powers.

Every single one of us 65 million, and the utterly disenfranchised and dispossessed 5m are simply collateral.

The labour party is not a fiefdom, as he is about to find out.

bellinisurge · 11/11/2018 21:54

Corbyn could promise us unicorns and trampolines and it won't fucking matter because our economy is about to get hammered. By a thing he made no effort to stop.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 11/11/2018 21:54

Brexit is party political. It is a Tory civil war. It is largely right wing (the media, UKIP). "Lexit" is a myth. You can count the left wing eurosceptics on one hand.