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Westministenders: Reality Bytes

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RedToothBrush · 01/11/2018 22:39

Tonight the Corbyn and McDonnell Labour Party supported the Tory Party in improving the tax allowance for higher rate tax payers.

Yes you read that right. Did you even blink?

You've been so conditioned into seeing non existant opposition which seems to go against everything the Labour Party stand for that you no longer are shocked.

That's what 2 and a half years of Brexit has done to you.

You no longer care that Boris Johnson got £14,000 from the Saudis a couple of days before the Khashoggi murder. You know longer care that the former Defence Secretary is employed for £75,000 a year to advise a major Saudi Investor.

You are just happy that Trump hasn't started a war with Iran or North Korea yet. And hasn't started a civil war. (Though he's trying hard and next week is his best opportunity to stir it all up). You aren't surprised to hear that predictions are that the Democrats will fail to make gains in the mid terms.

You've suffered the 4657 story about how Therea May is just about to be challenged for the leadership.

You've heard about the squad set up at the Home Office to clear up all the cases the media get their hands on as the latest burning injustice. You are hearing that EU nationals who have been promised they are 'safe' are being subjected to questions about their right to stay. And you just shrug and say, "Yeah well thats the Home Office for you. The Bastards". And you do mean it, but you are so jaded by it all. And you worry that another 12 months from now, you won't even be interested in another story like that, and the press will stop printing them as they no longer interest the reader. What happens to your friends, your family, or even you then? Who is going to care then?

And then you have today.

A day where you hear that Bannon is being investigated by the Senate Intel Committee, Farage has been upgraded to the FBI's Really Naughty List and Banks has (FINALLY) been refered to the NCA. (We were only speculating on the possibility, on the 26th March...)

And you go 'Ooooooooo maybe there is hope'.

Maybe we COULD remain in the EU and avoid Turnip Soup and wiping your arse with leaves because of the national bog roll shortage. Or at least get a decent deal which suits us as a nation. Maybe, just maybe!

And that lasts for about 2 minutes before you log into twitter and the very first thing you see this:

Tom Newton Dunn @tnewtondunn
Excl: David Cameron tells friends he’d like a return to frontline politics, and fancies Foreign Secretary
www.thesun.co.uk/news/7639377/david-cameron-return-to-politics/

And you let out a high pitched screech as if you are were a dying cat as you remember this is 2018, and it just wants to beat the life out of you.

On the plus side, it shows you do still care enough to think 'Don't let that fucking bastard anywhere near power ever, ever again.'.

Ho hum.

Keep on, keeping on. Don't let the bastards win.
Keep caring. It matters.

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DGRossetti · 09/11/2018 14:51

The UK's reputation would be ruined if it just repealed the GFA

Er, what reputation ? The UK is currently untrusted and a laughing stock anyway. In fact I would be more concerned that having trashed any reputation the UK has, a sort of "we may as well do it properly" mindset may prevail.

BigChocFrenzy · 09/11/2018 14:51

We also discussed the danger to the unity of the UK ... all rubbished as Project Fear

As I posted, I think Brexit has made the breakup of the UK inevitable
It's just a matter of when and how painfully it happens

DGRossetti · 09/11/2018 14:52

Anyone caught the thread elsewhere on "respect having to be earned" ?

Cailleach1 · 09/11/2018 14:52

Rather than the gov't giving special treatment as a reward for bad behaviour, Westminster would only be cut short of bullying/abusing NI for it's own ends if it could not do so. The gov't wouldn't spare a thought on the wellbeing of the childer. And with the family analogy, some abduction and much abuse was carried out in that part of the 'blended' family. With much partisan favouritism. Maybe resulting in the toxic relationships that can be seen today.

The gov't is not doing anything out of concern for the well being of any part of the UK.

DGRossetti · 09/11/2018 15:08

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/russian-billboards-celebrating-brexit-appear-in-london-1-5770948

A group calling itself Proud Bear, which claims to be a “collective of Russian intelligence agents” are behind the billboards.

One reads “Let’s celebrate a red, white and blue Brexit” accompanied by a picture of a winking Vladimir Putin waving a Russian flag.

Another proclaims “Thank you! Boris”, picturing the former foreign secretary and leader of the Vote Leave campaign group Boris Johnson waving Russian flags.

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DGRossetti · 09/11/2018 15:12

As I posted, I think Brexit has made the breakup of the UK inevitable

Pandoras box. I think even the most ardent Brexiteer cheerleaders didn't envisage how willing their acolytes would be to throw the Union under a bus for Brexit.

I wonder how far away we are from becoming a republic, too ?

DGRossetti · 09/11/2018 15:23

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DGRossetti · 09/11/2018 15:24

news.sky.com/video/two-legal-rights-that-will-disapear-after-brexit-11547482

David Greene, deputy vice president of The Law Society, tells Ian King that citizens will be affected when Britain leaves the EU.

(video)

1tisILeClerc · 09/11/2018 15:34

Almost time for another new Westminsterenders thread!
If only Mrs May had been looking at MN she might have made some better decisions, even about nor wearing that blue 'puffer' coat in many of the photos last week, making her look a bit like a vampire.

woman11017 · 09/11/2018 15:56

Jo Johnson't just resigned. Wants a #PeoplesVote.
medium.com/@JoJohnsonUK/why-i-cannot-support-the-governments-proposed-brexit-deal-3d289f95f2bc

WorriedMutha · 09/11/2018 15:56

Jo Johnson resigns stating we are on the brink of a disaster akin to WW2. Interesting times at the Johnson Christmas lunch this year.

DGRossetti · 09/11/2018 16:03

Seems we are living in interesting times ....

ElenadeClermont · 09/11/2018 16:04

He is not wrong. I have continued stockpiling with your helpful suggestions today.

Cherrypi · 09/11/2018 16:05

Pan-cakes. Brilliant. Never noticed that before. Blush

DGRossetti · 09/11/2018 16:06

Just reading now.

OUCH

notice the not at all veiled dig at Raab ?

woman11017 · 09/11/2018 16:09

Timing of Johnson's announcement?
Tick tock................

@peterjukes
Brilliant work by @johnsweeneyroar on @Arron_banks finances. Appears he failed to redact a new entity of his - Ural Properties. So, where did he get his money from? And why did colleagues say he was in Moscow to discuss Gold and Diamond mine deals with Sberbank during EUref?

@BorisJohnson
Boundless admiration as ever for my brother Jo. We may not have agreed about brexit but we are united in dismay at the intellectually and politically indefensible of the UK position 1/2

This is not taking back control. It is a surrender of control. It does not remotely correspond to the mandate of the people in June 2016 2/2

DGRossetti · 09/11/2018 16:09

Well, having read it all (they should have had pictures for Brexiteers) I must say, I have enormous respect for this Mr. Johnson.

Game changer ?

MsForestierinParis · 09/11/2018 16:11

'We can see the sunlit meadows beyond.' Bo Jo

We're a long way from sunny uplands.

RedToothBrush · 09/11/2018 16:14

Imagine Jo being the Johnson who ends up being PM after all this...

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plaidlife · 09/11/2018 16:15

He's not wrong at all.
We keep reminding our Brexiteer MP that no one voted to get poorer and they will notice.

RedToothBrush · 09/11/2018 16:15

Remember Jo was a transport minister and Greyling is the minister in charge of queues at Dover.

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DGRossetti · 09/11/2018 16:15

First thoughts are to notice how he mentions Boris in a subtly supportive way ... certainly not slamming any doors to the notion that it might be Boris that saves the day ?

Anyone else a bit blindsided by this ? Jo Johnson was not on the list of names expected to pop up in this fashion.

Finally, timing. Just after 4pm on a Friday ? What is the significance, if any ?

Presumably Theresa May has to scrabble around over the weekend to find a new minister. At least she's had some practice.

woman11017 · 09/11/2018 16:18

Imagine Jo being the Johnson who ends up being PM after all this...
It's being suggested already that this is to clear the decks for Johnson/mogg reich.

woman11017 · 09/11/2018 16:19

May has actually been in a mild car crash this afternoon.
metro.co.uk/2018/11/09/vehicle-crashes-into-theresa-mays-convoy-in-belgium-8122679/

woman11017 · 09/11/2018 16:27

"This would not be about re-running the 2016 referendum, but about asking people whether they want to go ahead with Brexit now that we know the deal that is actually available to us, whether we should leave without any deal at all or whether people on balance would rather stick with the deal we already have inside the European Union"