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to think if you LOVE the UK it is NOW time to make yourself heard

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OneforsorrowTwoforJoyce · 26/10/2018 12:07

Write to your MP and let them know if you want the UK to stay in the Single Market/Customs Union or remain in the EU.

Let them know that you will hold them personally responsible if the UK leaves with No Deal or a Bad Deal.

Let them know you will not tolerate the Good Friday Agreement breaking down and peace in Northern Ireland being put at risk.

If you are a Labour party supporter or potential voter let them know that you want them to come out in favour of SM/CU or Remain - NOW.

Sign the petitions (I can link if you like) demanding a People's Vote and get ready to write to the PM on 9th November.

Don't report this to MNHQ and ask for it to be put in the Brexit topic - it's a genuine AIBU and too important to be hidden away.

The people did indeed speak in 2016, half of them were listened to. Now we need to be listened to again.

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Thomasinaa · 26/10/2018 13:53

We are the victims of a coup. People didn't vote to leave at the cost of the destruction of our peace, prosperity, rights and freedoms.

butterflysugarbaby · 26/10/2018 13:59

@prettybird

Can we start to report all topics in AIBU that could should be in another topic?

Thing is, the AIBU board got saturated with Brexit threads, like every 4th one was about sodding Brexit, and everyone thought they were right. Leavers AND remainers. So, MN created a board specifically for Brexit, because it was pissing people off, clogging up AIBU, and causing massive bunfights.

Unfortunately, the people who voted to remain are really sore losers, and insist on posting their ranty anti-Brexit threads on AIBU because they know it will be seen by more people. And as they as soooooo insistent they're right; they absolutely must have as many people as possible seeing their rants posts about Brexit.

Funnily enough, I don't see people who voted to leave the EU, posting multiple threads about Brexit, (and posting them on AIBU instead of on here, so that more people get to see their oh so important opinions and views, because they are soooooo important!!!) Wink

Yes yes yes I said I was going..... And now I really AM going. I am hiding the thread because I have no interest in talking about it anymore.

@Oneforsorrowtwoforjoyce

I have no interest in debating Brexit anymore

GOOD. Hopefully we won't see any more ranty threads by you on AIBU anymore! Hmm

prettybird · 26/10/2018 14:09

...so, if you are worried about the future of the country or your own job or quite simply being able to get life saving medicines (as opposed to whether a headteacher was rude to you or what housecleaning products to use) then you can't use AIBU, but instead must be kept tucked away in the Brexit topic Confused

Isn't the whole point of AIBU to be able to express frustration?

You can always either reply YABU or, god forbid, scroll on by Shock

Kool4katz · 26/10/2018 14:34

My MP is the fuckwit Fox. I did write to him but got a nonsense reply back.
I don't want to leave the EU so I've left the U.K. instead and I shall be applying for my new passport early next year.
Brexit is a shambles now (state of the pound?, businesses leaving in droves etc.), so it's obviously only going to get far worse.
No point being the last man standing.

OneforsorrowTwoforJoyce · 26/10/2018 14:49

"people who voted to remain are really sore losers"

I'm getting close to calling "house" in Brexiteer Bingo.

If you're not interested just hide the thread. And I don't get why Leavers are so rattled. Well, I do actually. It's not going well which is why it's time for people to speak up about what's best for the UK.

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Peregrina · 26/10/2018 15:07

Have we had Y2K/Millenium bug yet?

time4chocolate · 26/10/2018 15:21

It’s just like the Y2K/millennium bug, what a lot of fuss about nothing Smile

1tisILeClerc · 26/10/2018 15:21

For some reason, discussing which handbag goes with a certain outfit, or babies names is FAR more important than Brexit, according to MNHQ.

indistinct · 26/10/2018 15:52

@mummymeister
Looks like the deal we're heading for will be even worse than EEA/EFTA+CU for the economy and in terms of voice within EU. Why support it?
@Growingboys
But how is leaving going to be good for the UK and its citizens? The ref '16 promises were enticing but given where we are now would you still support leave?
@threetrees
Prefer to think of it as pooling shared sovereignty (i.e. collective bargaining). We still have an EU veto why throw it away for a long transition with no say or no-deal, immediate recession and UK misery?
@sunglasses123
Agree that it's your decision but after all you've observed over the last 2.5 years since Jun '16 would you still support Brexit? Would you say that the promises of the leave campaign are going to be delivered? Would you say we should press ahead even if its going to be 50 years before we see any benefits as Mr. Rees-Mogg appears to think?
@Chocolala
Agree another vote would be divisive but not as divisive as inflicting a no-deal Brexit on an ill-prepared nation and risking mass unemployment. Agree MPs should lead but they appear to be unable to get over the '16 referendum despite it being clear that not much/if any of the leave campaign's promises will be delivered.

Leavers look at the issue again - after the last 2+ years and what we know now - is it definitely right to press ahead?

sunglasses123 · 26/10/2018 16:01

I would still vote Leave. Just in case anyone is thinking I am white middle class - my parents were both immigrants but came over because of the demand for their skills. Its not being handled very well but it was never going to be a walk in the park.

Teresa May is trying her best but she isn't tough enough. If there is no deal then the EU and their grasping little mitts will get nothing - hopefully.

The world hasn't fallen in, we have almost full employment, mortgage rates very low and the vote was 2 years ago. We honestly aren't going to get another vote to leave/remain.

We voted and it didn't go some people's way so you cannot keep demanding votes until you get your own way!

I think we should have organised a cross party team who were accepting of the vote. Instead all we get is snipping between Corybn and May. Although May isn't great could you image Corbyn trying to deliver Brexit?

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Junker is a drunk power crazy idiot who loves the sound of his own voice - that and over riding UK laws. It has had its time and now is the time for change.

Quietrebel · 26/10/2018 16:13

you cannot keep demanding votes until you get your own way!

Then remind me why we get general elections every 5 years?

DarlingNikita · 26/10/2018 16:17

it was never going to be a walk in the park

Funny, I can remember people like Liam Fox and David Davies blapping on about how our new trade deals would be the easiest in history, people would be queuing up to give us great deals etc etc.

And May trumpeting about the special relationship with the US, rushing over to India thinking they'd lay out the red carpet oops they just asked for more visas and so on and so forth.

I think we should have organised a cross party team
I don't disagree with you on that. It couldn't have been a worse shitshow than it is now.

Quietrebel · 26/10/2018 16:24

The very definition of democracy, such as the British parliamentary democracy, is that it's the duty of the minority in opposition to challenge the ruling majority.
Democracy should never be used to gag itself!!!

TeddyIsaHe · 26/10/2018 16:27

www.peoples-vote.uk/write_this_wrong?utm_campaign=write_this_wrong_241018&utm_medium=email&utm_source=in

Yes, do write to your MP! It takes less than a minute on this link, the email is written out but you can add to it if you want.

I cannot see how anyone in their right mind can look at how Brexit is being handled currently and not want a say in how we leave the EU. It’s a complete farce and unless you’re rolling in cash it is going to fuck every single one of us over. We deserve a say in what’s going to happen, THAT is democracy.

1tisILeClerc · 26/10/2018 16:46

Mr Junker, Mr Barnier and Mr Verhofstadt are representatives of all the EU and are carrying out the wishes of around 500 million people.
The fact that the UK government can't decide which pot to pi55 in is hardly the fault of the EU, who have been waiting quite patiently for 2 and a half years for the UK to decide what Brexit actually means, and so far there is still no hard definition and certainly not one that will satisfy the majority of the UK voters.
If it wasn't for the massive issue of a border on the island of Ireland, caused by the British several centuries ago the prospect of leaving the EU would be rather simpler, but would still take many years to unravel the many treaties that have been written up.
Brexit is a mess of the UKs making and insulting the leaders of the EU parliament and the other 27 countries is not helping. Added to the way that the UK in colonial times treated the rest of the world 150 years ago it might now be the time the chickens come home to roost.

prettybird · 26/10/2018 17:55

For future reference, MNHQ has justified moving this thread to the "Brexit" topic because it was asking people to sign petitions and contact their MP Shock I might have reported a few other threads for being in AIBU when there were other topics they could be in Wink

"Whilst we understand your point, as OP was essentially posting a thread that we usually would have moved to Petitions and Activism, we think moving to Brexit was a reasonable compromise - the premise of the thread was asking people to sign petitions. We do let most threads about AIBU run in Brexit."

So there you have it - don't actually ask people to do anything if you want it to stay in AIBU Hmm

mummymeister · 26/10/2018 18:07

Or alternatively if you are a shouty remoaner who thinks you just HAVE to change your mind and HAVE to think like them because they are right, post on the right board i.e. the one about Brexit in the first place. its quite simple really, MN does have a system. People who want to read endless "chicken licken the sky is going to fall in threads" can come here and read the we are all doomed speeches to their hearts content.

TeddyIsaHe · 26/10/2018 18:15

mummy your post is hilarious. Honestly if it wasn’t such a shit show, March would be quite enjoyable to see all the leavers finally realising that ‘Project Fear’ or whatever ridiculous phrase you’ve coined now was actually right.

Tell me, what are the benefits of a bad or no deal Brexit?

OneforsorrowTwoforJoyce · 26/10/2018 19:38

The Leavers seem to be rattled judging by the reply from MNHQ

"We do judge whether we move threads about Brexit to the Brexit by how many reports they get, and we're sorry it's probably not what you want to hear, but this got a lot more reports than we normally get"

I don't mind hearing that at all! I've managed to have quite a few Brexit threads kept in AIBU - it's interesting that when I'm urging action the Leavers get agitated en masse (apologies for foreign words there)

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Thomasinaa · 26/10/2018 19:44

My remain voting uncle and aunt in their 80s were astonished when I mentioned to them that the government expects there to be shortages of food and medicine for 6 months. They are both on daily meds for serious conditions. They follow the news but were still unaware. We need to publicise this.

Thomasinaa · 26/10/2018 19:45

I'm really worried about them.

1tisILeClerc · 26/10/2018 19:46

It would be interesting to know if those that 'reported' the thread are fresh trolls attempting to shut down reasoned discussion, you know stuff with FACTS rather than soundbites..

Bombardier25966 · 26/10/2018 19:55

If there is no deal then the EU and their grasping little mitts will get nothing - hopefully.

That's not how it works. We still pay our contractual obligations irrespective of the deal we leave with. Indeed we may even pay more than with a negotiated deal, as an ongoing relationship offers benefits to the EU that can be offset against any bill.

@sunglasses123 I'm astonished that you did not realise that. If you have a meal but can't agree on the bill it does not mean you walk out without paying!

Bombardier25966 · 26/10/2018 19:57

@mummymeister Please point out who you feel is shouting? I find the posts on this thread to be calmed and measured.

1tisILeClerc · 26/10/2018 19:57

An important point needs to be made that regardless of remain or leave, EVERYONE who is requiring medication for significant illnesses MUST at least inquire about continued supply of the medication. It is a 'public duty' to do so. A shortage of pak choi or other foodstuffs is one thing, lack of meds is life threatening (stating the bleeding obvious) and to have threads 'hidden', so not broadcasting this important information is truly awful.