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Westminstenders: Crisis. What Crisis

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RedToothBrush · 25/10/2018 18:12

October is slowly rolling into November.

Your eyes, rightly, will be distracted by events the other side of the pond.

It won't be good and it won't be pretty and it will have an impact on what happens here in relation to Brexit in one way or another.

May seems to have headed off trouble makers for now. But that means nothing if she can't get a deal through parliament.

And if you think we are in anyway prepared for No Deal I'd like whatever drugs you are taking. That way lies only disorder and to put it bluntly, deaths.

We MUST find a deal, any deal to prevent that. Desperation is the final ingredients in this mess. Who will blink as they realise what's at stake?

The problem is though, is too few MPs have grasped what's at state, such is the quality of our elected representatives. And that's the truly terrifying bit.

If they can't work out the risk of no deal, they certainly not equipped to handle the fall out of no deal.

If you want to shit yourself anymore, I'd like to take this opportunity to remind you that the minister responsible for hauling all your food and medical supplies in the event if no deal, is Mr Christopher Grayling.

Start praying.

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DGRossetti · 01/11/2018 17:09

Has anyone heard of Steve West" ? If not, his kids will be pleased ...

www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/election/article220812270.html

Emily West has a message for voters in Missouri House District 15.

Don’t vote for her dad.

“I can’t imagine him being in any level of government,” she told The Star on Monday.

Her dad is Steve West, 64, the Republican candidate for the Missouri General Assembly who made headlines after winning the GOP primary in August when word spread about his radio show and website through which he regularly espoused an array of bigotry including homophobia, anti-Semitism, Islamophobia and outright racism.

“A lot of his views are just very out there,” Emily West said. “He’s made multiple comments that are racist and homophobic and how he doesn’t like the Jews.”

(contd)

If only UK politics were as refreshing. Maybe we should hear from politicians kids more ?

woman11017 · 01/11/2018 17:13

You can't fight crime with constitutional procedures.

This just posted.

Let's be clear, when Banks gets hauled in then so will Wigmore, Tice, Rees Fuck, Nix, Grimes, Johnson, Gove, Legatum and the whole poisonous cesspit of the Leave campaign. Tick tick tick tick.... boom

Corbyn's silence means one thing. The SWP always were mercenary.
They never could get popular support. Unsurprisingly.

BigChocFrenzy · 01/11/2018 17:22

How bad were the bad boys of Brexit?

https://drugstoreculture.com/bad-were-bad-boys-brexit/

The Electoral Commission’s legal chief, Bob Posner:

"We have reasonable grounds to suspect money given to Better for the Country [which ran Leave.EU] came from impermissible sources
and that Mr Banks and [Liz] Bilney, the responsible person for Leave.EU,
knowingly concealed the true circumstances under which this money was provided.

This is significant because at least £2.9m of this money was used to fund referendum spending and donations during the regulated period of the EU referendum.

Our investigation has unveiled evidence that suggests criminal offences have been committed which fall beyond the remit of the Commission.
...
From the emails that we have seen, it is evident that Arron Banks had many meetings with Russian officials, including the Russian Ambassador, Alexander Yakovenko, between 2015 and 2017.
The meetings involved discussions about business deals involving Alrosa, the Russian diamond monopoly, the purchase of gold mines, funded by Sberbank, the Russian-state bank, and the transferring of confidential documents to Russian officials.

Mr. Banks seemed to want to hide the extent of his contacts with Russia,
while his spokesman Andy Wigmore’s statements have been unreliable – by his own admission – and cannot be taken at face value.

^ Mr Wigmore is a self-confessed liar and, as a result, little significance can be attached to anything that he says.^

It is unclear whether Mr. Banks profited from business deals arising from meetings arranged by Russian officials.

We understand that the National Crime Agency (NCA) is investigating these matters.
We believe that they should be given full access to any relevant information that will aid their inquiry…

Arron Banks is believed to have donated £8.4m to the Leave campaign,
the largest political donation in British politics,
but it is unclear from where he obtained that amount of money.

He failed to satisfy us that his own donations had, in fact, come from sources within the UK.

At the same time, we have evidence of Mr. Banks’ discussions with Russian embassy contacts, including the Russian ambassador,
over potential gold and diamond deals, and the passing of confidential information by Mr Banks."

woman11017 · 01/11/2018 17:25

Resignation.

@BBCVickiYoung
I understand Tracey Crouch has resigned. #FOBT

boldlygoingsomewhere · 01/11/2018 17:34

Arron Banks...taking money from and conspiring with foreign sources with political aims likely to significantly weaken the country’s economy and politics. Good thing we are in modern times - a couple of hundred years ago he’d be looking at treason charges.

I don’t have many skills I could offer - also teaching skills, fluent Dutch, good level of French and German, storyteller (can keep morale up round the campfire).

Mrsr8 · 01/11/2018 17:38

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Buteo · 01/11/2018 17:41

I think the investigation into Banks et al is too late to stop the Brexit juggernaut.

I can dig neat holes with a JCB, milk a cow, teach small children to swim and make chutney, if that helps.

GingerPCatt · 01/11/2018 17:43

Can I join? I’m a librarian for the NHS so while I can’t do anything medical I can find useful info about medical procedures. I’m a reasonable cook and am good at cleaning. But no crafting or gardening skills. DH is pretty good at DIY and DS can entertain everyone with long convoluted stories.

bellinisurge · 01/11/2018 17:44

I thought if I started a sentence with And ......

Talkstotrees · 01/11/2018 17:45

Today is a good, good day Flowers

JOHN O'CONNELL: "Confirmation today from multiple US sources via our US colleagues that Nigel #Farage upgraded by FBI from 'Person of Interest' in Multiple Data Crimes to 'Actively being Investigated'.

"Likely to be asked to schedule an interview on his next visit."

Talkstotrees · 01/11/2018 17:48

And I can massage weary muscles, play some instruments and sing moral rousing songs. DH can bring his air rifle & shoot some wood pigeons.

MyBrexitIsIll · 01/11/2018 17:48

^^Confirmation today from multiple US sources via our US colleagues that Nigel #Farage upgraded by FBI from 'Person of Interest' in Multiple Data Crimes to 'Actively being Investigated'.
Likely to be asked to schedule an interview on his next visit^

WOW!
But why would Farage be investigated by the FBI for something to do with Brexit?
What’s the relationship with the US there?? Is it about who gave him the money (and it’s making him a suspect?) hmmm

BigChocFrenzy · 01/11/2018 17:49

MP Damian Collinss: Arron Banks’s bullyboy tactics will not stop me pursuing the truth_

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/31/arron-banks-brexit-disinformation

Talkstotrees · 01/11/2018 17:51

Those letters sent to Damien Collins’ constituents were absolutely disgusting. What a vile bully that man is Angry

BigChocFrenzy · 01/11/2018 17:52

MyBrexit I gather from the previous questioning of Farage in the US that the FBI are interested in the murky connections between the Trump and Brexit campaigns - who had considerable contact with each other -
and the Russians, who had dealings with both

MyBrexitIsIll · 01/11/2018 17:52

More information about Farage and the FBI

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/01/nigel-farage-is-person-of-interest-in-fbi-investigation-into-trump-and-russia
FBI interested in former Ukip leader’s ties with people connected to US president and WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange

One of the things the intelligence investigators have been looking at is points of contact and persons involved,” one source said. “If you triangulate Russia, WikiLeaks, Assange and Trump associates the person who comes up with the most hits is Nigel Farage.

So it gets better and better.
Russia, Assange, Farage and Trump.
And you still have people thinking that the referendum wasn’t ‘influenced’ by outside powers....

woman11017 · 01/11/2018 18:03

@EUflagmafia
The irony is, that being in the EU makes it easier to investigate #arronbanks international affairs... sweet.

woman11017 · 01/11/2018 18:07

@PolhomeEditor
Looks like around 20 Labour MPs rebelled against Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell by voting against tax cuts for the rich. There's a sentence I never thought I'd write.

WhatWouldScoobyDoo · 01/11/2018 18:12

Just catching up- can teach some ancient languages, have first aid skills, & willing to give all necessary tasks my best effort Smile

RedToothBrush · 01/11/2018 18:16

Did someone say the National Crime Agency? And FBI?

Christmas comes early to Westminstenders.

Taking a bit of time off, for the sake of my sanity. But Wooooo!

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Tanith · 01/11/2018 18:24

MyBrexitIsIll: "But why would Farage be investigated by the FBI for something to do with Brexit?
What’s the relationship with the US there?? Is it about who gave him the money (and it’s making him a suspect?) hmmm"

I have always believed the UK Referendum to be a dry run for the US Election.

woman11017 · 01/11/2018 18:30

Flowers red well deserved break.

Mrsr8 · 01/11/2018 18:33

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bellinisurge · 01/11/2018 18:35

Best wishes @RedToothBrush . Hope you enjoy the early Christmas present!

borntobequiet · 01/11/2018 18:39

I think this is the thing that will put the brake on Brexit - if enough people kick off.