Westminstenders: Crisis. What Crisis

[RedToothBrush]

October is slowly rolling into November.

Your eyes, rightly, will be distracted by events the other side of the pond.

It won't be good and it won't be pretty and it will have an impact on what happens here in relation to Brexit in one way or another.

May seems to have headed off trouble makers for now. But that means nothing if she can't get a deal through parliament.

And if you think we are in anyway prepared for No Deal I'd like whatever drugs you are taking. That way lies only disorder and to put it bluntly, deaths.

We MUST find a deal, any deal to prevent that. Desperation is the final ingredients in this mess. Who will blink as they realise what's at stake?

The problem is though, is too few MPs have grasped what's at state, such is the quality of our elected representatives. And that's the truly terrifying bit.

If they can't work out the risk of no deal, they certainly not equipped to handle the fall out of no deal.

If you want to shit yourself anymore, I'd like to take this opportunity to remind you that the minister responsible for hauling all your food and medical supplies in the event if no deal, is Mr Christopher Grayling.

Start praying.

The poor EU will have to put up with our MEPs for longer... maybe a deal (ha) could be struck where our MEPs can't be re-elected until AFTER the ref and remain win.

imo, wait, Hazard
The UK govt has to first agree they want a ref and then is the time to ask for an extension / stopping the clock

Until then, Barnier & the EU can't be seen to be encouraging this, or it would rule out any chance of it happening.

bigchoc 👍okay. I'll be poised ready to go with a I ❤ Barnier banner.

Although I wanted remain I am not sure now, on one level. If it wasn't for friends, family and you folks I would really like the UK to crash out very badly just to teach the (leavers) a lesson. The full works, no planes, ships, power cuts, everything, for about 4 weeks.
Quite how the UK gets out of the deep hole it is in is anyone's guess, and with reports of attacks on 'Remainers' and 'foreigners' there will have to be a heck of a turn around.

Another Barnier fan here too, Hazard:

A highly competent intelligent professional with vast in-depth knowledge of his subject, who manages to always retain his politeness and dignity despite the dreadful lack of all these qualities on the UK side.

He's patiently met all the political odds-and-ends visitors from the UK

And now time for something which will make your stomach churn, creep you out, and make you go searching on David Ike's forum

Rosamund Urwin
Back in 2014 I interviewed Philip Green and after the interview, I went to an event at a school where Michael Gove called Green a "sex God"

It was extraordinarily weird at the time hence it became the top line of the piece. Gove also likened Green to Tom Jones, which was a weird cultural reference in a room full of teenagers...

The interview itself was also special. In the middle of it, Green suddenly said "what's your name again?" Was a pure power play. You don't actually need to know the name of the interviewer.

He also forced me to switch off my dictaphone to bitch about Nick Robertson, then the CEO of Asos, but that's probably par for the course

Do you want more? Because there is more (to this story).

(we await more)

Richard Dunstan @wonkypolicywonk
I'm hoping a journo is going to ask Gove about this, but I kinda know I'm going to be disappointed. But then I am kinda disappointed about everything, tbh.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/londoners-diary/the-londoner-john-humphrys-wont-get-peoples-vote-a3962116.html

Jess Phillips is offered an invidious choice — a Norfolk canal boat trip with either Boris Johnson or Jacob Rees-Mogg?
< AAARGH ! >

“I would pick Jacob any day of the week,” she says, “because I would fear for Boris Johnson’s safety if he was left on a canal boat with me.”

Speaking to Stylist’s Women of the House programme, the Labour MP continues:
“[Jacob] is who he is and I find that much more appealing than spending a week with someone who’s a fake.”

@rosamundurwin is a reporter for the Sunday Times BTW.

I suspect there may a few of these in the ten o'clock new drop tonight.

But Gove? What was he on about?

(and Hain is a Tory lord, so they'll be going loopy over on David Icke)

Hain's labour, I think, red. Sadly he was a stalwart of anti apartheid and had a question about the peoples vote yesterday.
Odd.

Ah I stand corrected then

I'm seldom right. Very odd.
From my wee peep into the corridors of power, I sense that men who wouldn't have got anywhere in many other life avenues are seduced by politics, and compromisable. Not an original observation but ......

Hain is definitely now Labour. As a young man he was a Liberal and a staunch opponent of apartheid - that is how he came to fame. I don't remember when he turned to Labour, but it was a good while back.

Peter Hain @peterhain
I took the decision to name Sir Philip Green in my personal capacity as an independent member of the House Of Lords. I categorically state that I was completely unaware Gordon Dadds were advising the Telegraph regarding this case

David Allen Green @davidallengreen
Gordon Dadds are named on the very front page of the judgment, see
t.co/PSS4orp82L

If what he says is true, it means that @peterhain could not have carefully read the judgment he was about to circumvent, if he read it at all. t.co/ZGRprPArP0

Either @peterhain is lying or he is admitting that he did not read the court's judgment carefully (or at all) before using parliamentary privilege to circumvent the court's order.

Neither is impressive.

As I set out in @FT, there will be times where parliamentary privilege can be used but MPs/Peers should be careful.

And a prerequisite should be that the MP/Peer should read relevant judgment first.

Unless @peterhain is lying, he did not read the judgment with sufficient care.

There should be a set parliamentary procedure for MPs and Peers who wish to use parliamentary privilege so as to breach a court order.

Not a block but an agreed process, such as a motion.

They should have the power, but it needs to be used with care.

Cash for questions is one thing.

Cash for parliamentary privilege is another.

And even the appearance of the latter should be avoided.

Hain denies he knew, but he has at least been careless and evidently had not read the judgment for the order he was about to circumvent.

Hain rose to fame as an anti-aprtheid Young Liberal sactivist, but really rose to fame after he was apparently framed by the South African secret service for a bank robbery (in the UK)

He was arrested and charged - I don't think it actually went to trial - but was proved innocent

Much later, he got grief from both LibDems and some Labout activists when he joined Labour

After Mo Mowlan, he was NI Sec of State - not as dim as the current one, who is Guiness Book of Recprds material for ignorance in an important job

I think he was careless and sloppy - which would fit with his political career - and didn't realise the law firm representing the Telegraph was the one also paying him

That kind of thing is far too easily found out, by someone who isn't so eager to rush into the limelight again, to have been a cunning plan.

We keep looking for deep dark plots, but all too often our politicians are just disgracefully careless & incompetent in their day jobs

hazard thank you so much for your kind words, and I’m really sorry that it appears you have personal experience of a similar situation. Many to you and your DP.

The Times...

I've just heard that HIGNFY asked the question 'what did 700 000 people waste their time doing last weekend?' and then went on to call all the marchers middle class idiots and laugh at us for a few minutes. Did anyone see it?

There should be a set parliamentary procedure for MPs and Peers who wish to use parliamentary privilege so as to breach a court order

fancy that !

This looks bad

Crash.

Hain was Labour MP for Neath in South Wales for 14 years. I frequently saw him on the train when I used to commute.

Yes, Pretzels, I saw that too. Cheeky middle-class fuckers themselves.

Anyway, I don't care what those prats say, it's all scripted anyway. What's it got to do with being one class or another, just because you can see Brexit for the shitfest it is?

Couple of friends were at a Law Society conference today (in Scotland) where a speaker confidently predicted food rationing

The UK is choosing to do this because it is supposedly the "Will of the People" Did they really vote for this?