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To think people are creating hysteria around brexit

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whyispeppainthenightgarden · 23/10/2018 20:33

I keep reading post about brexit And prepping and they seem to be crazy. Why are people creating so much hysteria around this. I can’t see how it would be beneficial to other countries to let it get in the state some posters are suggesting.

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Willofthesimpletons · 24/10/2018 01:33

*what's

VillanellesBrownWig · 24/10/2018 03:05

Great username Willofthesimpletons Grin

Talkstotrees · 24/10/2018 07:16

Another reminder - they work for you, tell them your concerns: www.theyworkforyou.com/

malificent7 · 24/10/2018 07:27

I'm stockpiling food as I think prices will go up . It's not hysteria it's forward planning and common sense. I'm buying an extra bag of basics pasta and rice here and there. Will also include tinned fruit etc. Can't afford an extra 10 pounds on my weekly shop.

malificent7 · 24/10/2018 07:31

I agree that the conservatives are utterly appalling and have no idea why they are in power. My history lessons taught me that the right emerge in times of poverty.

Oh well...we get the government we deserve ( oh for proportional representation.)

hettie · 24/10/2018 07:37

There will be a deal. The chances of no deal seem high and the consequences of no deal are really bad (nothing I've read seeks to scaremonger, in fact in my sector and my dh's they are rather underplayed). No one should panic but only because there will be a deal. It will be a farce of a deal because we were met going to have 'cake and eat it' and the tabloids will blame Europe (despite it being our choice to leave and the consequences of that being completely predictable)...

Mrsr8 · 24/10/2018 07:38

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Zebra31 · 24/10/2018 07:46

Everything will be fine, initially, short term measures will be put in place to assure everything functions.

Not if you work in the food sector importing canned commodities from countries with no trade deal in place before March. There are no short term measures. If there are we need to know about them now. To ensure we get stock shipped and through port we and our customers (retail, manufacturing and food service) require at least 3 months notice. Our sector has lobbied the government. There are no short term measures in place. All we can hope for now is a deal with the EU. Without a deal the WTO terms hit in March and so does the price shit storm. Shortly followed by redundancies in our organisation. Port chaos is expected. No ifs, no buts.

People fear the unknown - that’s all. 🤷🏻‍♀️ It’s new uncharted territory

It’s not unknown for our business. It’s very much known what the impact will be. People will lose their jobs and the food we import will be hit by duty therefore you will pay more. We aren’t the only sector impacted. Start listening to the experts.

ahnow · 24/10/2018 07:49

It surprises me that when we're in the midst of a very well publicised shortage of adrenaline (you know, the life saving drug), that people don't believe that we could end up with a shortage of life saving drugs. Sometimes there's just nothing that the government or the hospitals or the people can actually do to get that drug, for whatever reason.

Annandale · 24/10/2018 07:49

I don't understand why those who couldn't decide what to do didn't just vote for the status quo. That's essentially what i did - there was no convincing info suggesting that leave would be anything other than exceptionally complex and difficult, so i voted to keep what we had. Obviously i know a lot of people didn't vote. I think that's shameful tbh. I know many intelligent leavers but none who's admitted to not voting.

Mrsr8 · 24/10/2018 07:52

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GoatWithACoat · 24/10/2018 08:43

I’m sure you were all SO concerned about the people who lost their jobs / couldn’t get jobs / saw crime rise and housing shortages when immigration policy meant integration
happened too fast and created tensions. You were all too busy calling the people suffering thick, racist, lying lowlifes. You didn’t give a shiny shit about labour workers, HGV drivers, building and window cleaning businesses or warehouse workers. So busy looking at ‘statistics’ without actually working and living in these situations to really understand the devastation. How many of you witnessed the homelessness Polish and Roma in towns and cities? How many actually spoke to them? Very few I imagine in the middle class stuck up your arse world of mumsnet.

The shit show of Brexit was caused by decades of snobs calling any working class community who said ‘hey! rapid immigration is disproportionately affecting us’, racist.

About 5 years ago I had a discussion on here about these attitudes. I suggested that if entire communities were complaining about immigration levels and racist tensions were beginning to build, more should be done to listen, to challenge the views in a mutually constructive way. The overwhelming response was, “no, we should not engage with thick racists and should just shut them down at every opportunity”

You think people who have suffered for years care about your science jobs and customs arrangements

You reap what you sow indeed. Except it’s not just the people who voted for Brexit but all the people who ignored those who saw it coming.

Believeitornot · 24/10/2018 08:52

How many of you witnessed the homelessness Polish and Roma in towns and cities?

Expand on this one please? Being homeless, they weren’t taking housing from anyone.

Brexit is a symptom, in my view, of the fact that those who are worse off are shafted time and time again. The rich will still be rich regardless of the EU. Brexit will not solve the issue of austerity for example.

Immigration of lower socioeconomic groups will of course have an impact on the same groups within the UK.

The issue is that successive governments haven’t helped these groups. Immigration showed that up - but without immigration, our economy would no doubt be in a worse state.

Let’s not pretend that before the changes relating to EU immigration policy, things were rosy and there was work for all. That’s bollocks - look at what Thatcher did to working class communities by decimating the mining community outside of London and pouring all resources into the City (making the rich even richer). Before that, after the Second World War - unemployment rose simply because not everyone can work.

If a country looks after everyone, not just the rich, then everyone benefits. We do not - instead we get nonsense like the “trickle down effect” which equals = make the rich richer and hope everyone else is better off too.

Leaving the EU will not make things better. The Tories will continue with austerity, housing costs will continue to escalate, etc etc.

Instead Brexit creates a distraction and only a generation later will people realise that it made not a fucking difference to those who really need it.

Moussemoose · 24/10/2018 08:57

GoatWithACoat I have worked with many poor immigrants from the EU and around the world.

I am very concerned, as are many posters, about the poverty in this country. The pay and working conditions of many are awful and need to be improved.

These issues are caused by U.K. governments, specifically the policy of austerity, and Brexit will not help.

GoatWithACoat · 24/10/2018 09:02

No believeitornot I agree with all you’ve said. I’m a remainer. My point is about the ATIITUDES from people and government and lack of action leading up to it. I get so angry reading “hey thickos, we’ve lost our science jobs now. Hope your happy!”

Nobody cared about these people before.

To expand on the homeless bit breifly as I need to go out. I mean the free movement of people meant many Eatern Europeans being taken advantage of. Romanian and Polish in particular offered cab driving / warehouse / labouring work. Packed like mice in people’s sheds, backyards etc. Three quarters of their wages taken. Left homeless. Theft, distraction crimes and begging rise. People complain. They get called racist and that’s the end of that.

Now everyone is saying “hope you’re happy” to the people who voted Brexit.

I rather feel that’s aimed at the wrong people.

GoatWithACoat · 24/10/2018 09:04

Sorry about the predictive text messing up spelling and paragraphs that disappeared once I’d posted.

Mistigri · 24/10/2018 09:04

The shit show of Brexit was caused by

Government incompetence, and wet dreams about a Phoenix like revival of the British empire among a certain set of voters.

twofingerstoEverything · 24/10/2018 09:06

Goatwithacoat You were all too busy calling the people suffering thick, racist, lying lowlifes.

I think you just made that ^^ up.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 24/10/2018 09:09

Government incompetence, and wet dreams about a Phoenix like revival of the British empire among a certain set of voters.

I would add the opposition’s Impotence and lack of common sense in all things Brexit.

Mistigri · 24/10/2018 09:09

GoatwithaCoat has posted elsewhere about being a landlord who will only rent to working tenants. This faux concern about homelessness is pretty transparent. Remainer my arse.

GoatWithACoat · 24/10/2018 09:12

Well twofingers. I think you might want to do a bit more reading of the numerous Brexit threads then!

I was on here the week before Brexit saying how I thought we were going out because people who’s voiced were heard the least would take their chance.

The amount of ‘oh no no no don’t be silly we will remain I have NO doubt. It’s so silly to leave” etc etc

Yes, but you’ve underestimated the anger I said.

“No no no don’t be silly”

westwalk · 24/10/2018 09:14

That wasn’t very well put by me, I mean I can’t see other countries In the case of a no deal letting diabetes ( using the example of insulin) die unnecessarily which is basically what is being suggested

What a spectacularly naive comment! Unbelievable in fact and actually quite worrying! Do you have any knowledge of world affairs?

GoatWithACoat · 24/10/2018 09:15

It’s not faux concern. I am discussing people ignoring countrywide anger. It’s an observation.

If you want to bring up other threads be accurate. I said I have rented to DSS and in the future I would let to DSS if they worked and used it as a top up due to previous bad experience. Wtf that has to do with this I don’t know.

florafawna · 24/10/2018 09:16

People love getting worked-up Grin