To think people are creating hysteria around brexit

[whyispeppainthenightgarden]

I keep reading post about brexit And prepping and they seem to be crazy. Why are people creating so much hysteria around this. I can’t see how it would be beneficial to other countries to let it get in the state some posters are suggesting.

I work in Parliament and most MPs on all sides are more relaxed than than the media would have you believe. Planning for different outcomes is not panicking.

You may not be an insulin producing expert, but you did make the claim. It’s hardly surprising people are going to ask about the claim you made, is it?

So google it.

So, the UK produces its own insulin, because you say so.........

"Technically the UK does produce insulin, but it doesn't produce Human or Human Analogue Insulin, only Bovine and Porcine insulin. All Human and Human Analogue Insulin is imported from one of Novo Nordisk, Sanofi or Lilly. ... Novo Nordisk are Danish, Sanofi are French-German and Eli Lilly are American"

I don't think I am being unreasonable in asking my GP to prescribe 2 months extra medication for me in case of no deal Brexit. I must take drug every day for rest of life and it has about a 4 year date limit on. I know it comes form France and don't trust Macron not to make it hard for UK to import it for a couple of months. I don't know if it is manufactured in any other countries but am going to do research. If we are short of a few non basic foods i don't care we will just eat something else.

YANBU

Why get snippy with question when you made the claim? You could have googled as well as anybody else, before you confidently assured the thread that insulin is not a concern.

No. Not snippy. Just not concerned enough.

Yeah, insulin. Just not an important thing at all.

Also it wasn't a claim, more of an assumption. You can prove me wrong I'm sure!

It's not indivdual leaders like Macron who will be withholding meds. Its the UK government because it is ill prepared and unreasonable.

No one is doing this to us we're doing it to ourselves.

My take so far has been that it's generally sensible to have three days supply of bottled water in the house, and enough tinned food and rice to get you through a couple of weeks. I've been snowed in for a week before and I was definitely grateful of the supplies then.

If Brexit goes smoothly, no skin off anyone's nose. If it goes badly (as there is a chance it may) then I will feel better.

Same for medication. I don't think it's being alarmist, if your life depends on your medication (as mine does) to have a month's cushion. It's like making sure you have a month's salary in the bank. It's not me being alarmist and showing a lack of faith in my employer. It's me being aware that sometimes jobs go away, or life goes wrong.

Although I will admit that I've probably been a bit influenced by coming from a refugee family. My grandmother came to the UK with literally nothing that wasn't sewn into her clothes.

Amazing things, assumptions.

@mellongoose sums up the attitude of many leavers, they just don't care.

I had read that we had one producer of insulin in the UK. However, there are apparently different types of insulin, so even if this one producer could beef up its supplies, it could not provide the whole country. I don't doubt that in the fullness of time we could open factories which made the other types, but we are not going to be able to do that within 5 months. We certainly aren't going to open up new factories with wishful thinking.

I am not at all reassured to hear that MPs are relaxed about Brexit. It's utterly pathetic that 28 months on they can't even agree what they want to achieve, and are more concerned about keeping themselves electable than the good of the country.

@mellongoose

Posting assumptions makes a person look like a dick. Here's proof that UK imports its insulin, see Diabetes UK statement below:

'Insulin in the UK comes from three main pharmaceutical manufacturers, Lilly, Sanofi and Novo Nordisk. Currently, all analogue and synthetic human insulin is imported from outside of the UK, and these are the most common forms of insulin used by people with diabetes in the UK.'

You still haven't proven me wrong.

Big business plans for these types of events. Insulin is as important as other controlled drugs, we have huge companies whose interest it is in to make this whole thing run smoothly. Do you think the NHS has never planned for events such as this before?

I can see that you will never be reassured.

I also had a look and much of it comes from the US.

Mellongoose Lots of pharma companies have distribution plants in the UK but not manufacturing plants. In fact, not much is made at all in the UK these days.

The severe decline of the manufacturing industry and the fact we rely so heavily on imports is part of the problem of us leaving the EU. We can't suddenly start building factories all over the place to make stuff ourselves, we need to buy our goods from abroad.

Just because I'm not hysterical doesn't mean I don't care. It's not one or the other!! I rely on other people to do their jobs. You don't trust them. That's the difference.

I also had a look and much of it comes from the US.

And right now we don't have an independent trade deal with the US - we're tied into the EU one. So we have to set our own up, which Trump will almost certainly make sure benefits the US and not the UK and could take months to negotiate.

Make happy assumptions and have faith. Good plan.

@mellongoose sums up the attitude of many leavers, they just don't care.

And how they expect May and Co to suddenly sort everything out in 5 months, when they have done virtually nothing in 28 is beyond me.

Wrong again! I'm just not afraid of the consequences....since we don't KNOW what they will be.

EU club. Its like they are having a tantrum that the UK dare try to leave them so are just saying no to everything and not negotiating.

This so mis-states the position that it would be funny if it were not so sad, and potentially dangerous.

Try going to your local golf club , explaining that you want to leave and see how keen they are to negotiate when you can next tee off.

How is this so difficult to understand?