So what is it that you like about Brexit, OR, what is it you fear about Brexit?

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Just that really, whait is it you like orfear about Brexit?

There is nothing to like about Brexit. All the wrong people are cheering

I agree 100%. Like PPs I think there could be civil unrest whwn the shit hits the fan. What we need is civil unrest right now.

Fear it all really, I cannot cannot see how we are going to rise up out of this mess I really cannnot.

The jeering leavers? Surely some of them if they were truly honest must be just a little bit concerned??

{sad to my bones to think we will no longer the united kingdom. Not only will have lost our membership of Europe but we’re going to lose that too.}
While Westminster treats Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland unfairly the 'unitedness' of the kingdom will always be strained.

The only positive I can see is that Farage will be out of a job. Not that he bothered to take his duties as a MP seriously. Will the BBC and Question Time still have wall to wall UKIP representation when all they have is a few councillors? (Probably, but I am cynical.)

I'm not sad to see these island's countries breaking up now.

This 'kingdom' has never had a intellectual or cultural investment in socialism or democracy, which can bring a federation of countries together.

Scotland, Ireland and Wales really are very different countries to england.

Like Somerville and prettybird I think it's long overdue now.

There is nothing to like about Brexit. All the wrong people are cheering

This. As a Brit in Europe I am worried that I will lose my job and/or lose my right to stay. If I come back to the UK will my husband and children be able to come too?

I'm worried about my son having a shit future where he has to struggle.

I'm worried that I'm surrounded by an ignorant majority.

I'm worried that our political leadership, and opposition, are inadequate.

Where do you live, kew?

woman I'm assuming you meant Northern Ireland?

I am looking forward to our independence, to be able to conduct our own affairs, and to having our own elected government answerable to us.
The EU has turned into a monstrous mine field of bullshit, couldn't even decide where to have its headquarters, so opted for two at more than twice the cost.
Does anybody know where the money we have to pay in ends up, it certainly isn't here.
And to be ordered to take in more immigrants than we need or can cope with causing problems with housing, schools, hospitals ,doctors and police.
It would certainly help our prime minister if her bargaining position wasn't been constantly undermined by Corbyn and co, indicating to the EU that if they make things hard enough for her then they get their own way by us having another vote, and reversing the leave vote.

Scotland, Ireland and Wales really are very different countries to england.

Despite being ruled by England for 300/700/600/ years they retain their identity, which gives the lie to those Brexiters who voted to leave because they didn't want to be swallowed up into an EU superstate and lose their identity.

What do I fear about Brexit?

We came up with many things we have worried about over the last two years . Here they are listed in no particular order.

DH and were brainstorming the list together , but he fell asleep!

Some of these are slightly hyperbolic, but most represent real fears.

•Catastophic effect on the economy.
• Dropping further from our former high ranking in terms of global wealth and the social impact of that.
• Lack of understanding of what Brexit means.
• Ruthless men like Rees Mogg ,Gove,Johnson driving us towards an even more unequal society.
• Rise of the far right.
• Rise of racism and xenophobia.
• That shift to the right diminishing so many rights hard won by women.
• Economic downturn leading to more job cuts.
• Family budgets plummeting.
• Cuts to all vital public services.
• Women domestically and nationally returning the bottom of the list of priorities
• Effect on the poorest women, and black and minority ethnic women.
• Hard won rights of women being rolled back in the ERGs wet dream of a competitive, highly deregulated environment.
• The poor becoming poorer.
• Lack of nurses and doctors.
• Lack of carers for the elderly.
• Using Brexit as an excuse for the final collapse of the NHS.
• Becoming like the USA with dependence on health insurance except that 27 million people are uninsured because they can’t afford it.
• Using Brexit as an excuse for further underfunding state education.
• Moving towards the US libertarian view that it isn’t the role of the government to provide education for the young.
• Loss of basic human rights.
• Undoing 70 years of trade interlinking leading to peace.
• Progressive relaxation of food standards.
• Progressive relaxation of standards in consumer goods in return for profit.
• Relaxation of environmental standards and protections.
• Serious health risks (like the leukaemia due to benzene in the US because environmental standards were relaxed to facilitate corporate profit.)
• Food not being widely available.
• Looting.
• Anarchy.
• Progressive removal of workers’ rights to facilitate exploitation.
• Loss of the support of a larger organisation as a fall back.
• Continued fall of the pound.
• Falling equity markets.
• Increased use of food banks.
• Inability to donate to food banks.
• Using Brexit as an excuse to further withdraw benefits for the vulnerable and disabled.
• More homelessness.
• Recession.
• Inflation.
• Unemployment.
• Further underinvestment in public services especially elderly social care.
• Vulnerability to Russian cyber, sea and air incursions and loss of neighbour’s support against that.
• Being the lapdog to Life President Trump.
• Being unable to afford to travel and see some more bits of the world before I die.
• Lack of those goods and services commonly taken for granted by society.
• Poverty rates increasing.
• Not being able to afford a car or petrol.
• Being unwelcome in European countries.
• Loss of the comfortable life I’ve been able to give my kids.
• Loss of scientific research jobs and investment.
• My children being forced to move abroad to find work.
• Not being able to go with them.
• Not seeing them.
• Loss of arts jobs like all the orchestras who have left, so my friend’s daughter can’t find work either.
• All the banks leaving or reducing.
• The City shrinking.
• Further haemorrhaging of the finance community and loss of Britain’s economic strength.
• Becoming separated from Scotland and Ireland ,the dis- united kingdom.
• More people spending time below the poverty line.
• My family spending time below the poverty line.
• The Vulnerable being forced to join gangs.
• Women being exploited because they cannot afford food.
• Little England.
• Having to leave.
• Being stuck here.
• DH’s business folding.
• My work drying up.
• Return to some kind of feudal system with a great populace of serfs being lauded over by a small Tory elite.
• Civil unrest.
• Lawlessness.

Fgs people, Ireland is most definitely not part of the UK!!!

A bit like Schengen but smaller.
(Scotland and Wales really are very different countries to England.) and Northern Ireland except the border is a bit wetter)

I fear (am in fact sick with anxiety) that my family may be broken up, or that my six year old son, who considers himself English, is a British citizen and has no understanding of Brexit, may have to move abroad and restart school in a foreign language. I don't want to go into details about my personal life but for various reasons this is a possible outcome for us. I am not the only person I know in this situation either. The human impact has not been sufficiently discussed.

Oh yeah, that's true. Hannan & Farage no longer paid by tax payers, those are genuine benefits.

I know where some of the money went. I was employed for 18 months by EU money (public health); many of my colleagues were employed 5 years by EU money (water quality). See how EU money has been spent in your area.

I am concerned about brexit, but..... the original concept of the eiuropean market was correct. A group of countries getting together to trade fairly and consistently with each other. This was the concept that was voted on by UK in 1970’s. This worked and over time became more and more important as businesses realised the benefits of consistent standards in a trading relationship.

However, with increasing centralisation of standards and markets, there has also been an increase in political and ideological shifts to centralised governing and economical power. This is what I personally have a problem with and why I support some form of “divorce” from the EU but only because their goals have changed, not because of the concept as a whole. I do not want a “United States of Europe” but that is what appeared to be happening from a core (German and French) number of federal politicians were seeking.

The conjoining of job markets and financial markets to one unified whole misses out the reality of people and culture (not racially based) but “country” or even “county” when the existing norms change. On paper this should be fine but the reality is that people like what they know. Trying to force cohesion, especially at a time of global austerity resulted in the political draw bridge being raised, rather than a restructuring of the basis of the EU back to its origins of a common marketplace..

If only politicians could negotiate from a common market foundation it wouldn’t be much more positive, and get much more support across the EU.

It would help the PM if she could get her own party to agree! But it's the typical ploy - make a mess and blame everyone else for it.

Seriously though, I think this is the first Leaver contribution we have had, and it's the same weary Daily Mail cliches. Now if it was to say, yes, I always wanted to be a fruit picker and now farmers are desperate for my labour, I would think OK - a at least one person has got some benefit. Or even, yes, it's a benefit that the car factories are bringing their maintenance shut down's forward - I have a list of jobs for DH to do, and now he will have time to get on with them.

Yes, I am scraping the barrel a bit for those examples.

Ireland of course, isn't part of the UK, but I for one was looking at it in a historical context. The United Kingdom that my now late parents were born into did include the whole of Ireland. Despite being oppressed by the ruling classes of England, it still retained its identity when it was part of the UK.

woman I'm assuming you meant Northern Ireland
Yes!, sorry a UI being more likely.

52% of those in the north of Ireland want UI post brexit. I know I would if I was lucky enough to be there. I'm a generation out.
www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/brexit-would-boost-support-for-united-ireland-poll-finds-1.3616129

Fears about Brexit:

• Massive drop in available doctors, nurses, carers, construction workers, tradesmen and more
• Loads of unknown unknowns - the whole thing is completely un-thought-through, so who knows what problems we will discover when it happens that no one's even considered yet? A superficial, 1st-world problem example - I really rely on au pairs to manage our childcare affordably. Has anyone thought about how we're going to get au pairs over here to help working parents? Have they fuck. Our new one will hopefully stay for a year, during which time I'm hoping someone realises something needs to be done about it and sort something out that isn't too onerous or expensive. That'd be nice.
• London, where I am, will probably weather it out OK. Regional cities will face serious problems.
• Government, determined to impress the Daily Mail will triumphantly proclaim the scrapping of various workers' rights around working hours, parental leave etc in the entirely mistaken belief that reducing these rights will make us more productive (all the evidence is that this has no such effect)

I'm not convinced about some of the real 'disaster' worries - they might be a bit like the millennium bug, TBH. I don't think we'll suddenly be unable to travel to Europe; I expect at worst there might be a small charge and an online form, or maybe even just having passports stamped like used to happen when I was a kid. Not do I think no UK person will ever be able to work in the EU again, but it will definitely be harder.

There is no way that a Frenchman would 'identify' as German or Greek and vice versa (except there is a bit of crossover at the borders) so loss of identity is not going to happen.

Well unless they get aviation sorted out smartish, the planes won't be able to fly. Assuming they do get sorted then yes, it will be possible to travel.

Not like the Millenium bug - this argument has been debunked time and time again. A huge amount of work went into preparing for this. If the Government had been prepared to invest the same amount of time and money then they wouldn't be in the mess they are in now.

I'm worried that Putin is bloody loving this. His money bought him the outcome he wanted.