To be scared by our apathy?

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Threads on here discussing how best to stockpile food, the government telling us not to panic but at the same time making the kind of plans we shouldn’t see in peace time.

All of this is self inflicted. Largely down to our politicians worrying more about their parties than the rest of us. Austerity making us feel poorer and running down our services. Now the scary reality of next March is getting closer by the minute.

Countries have managed to royally fuck themselves before up by blindly believing the government will sort it out before. Ask yourself do you really believe that all those 650 MPs in parliament are either competent or working in your best interests?

but... its not too late

Many believe it’s a done deal with no turning back. But it can be stopped. Here’s the proof.

Speaking on the BBC Radio Today programme this morning, French Europe Minister Nathalie Loiseau confirmed that the door “remains open" to the UK, and that we could stay in the EU “on the same terms”.

Commenting, Lord (John) Kerr, the architect of Article 50 and a leading supporter of the People’s Vote campaign, said:
“It’s up to us. There would be no price – political or financial – to pay if we took back the Article 50 letter, as the French Europe Minister today confirmed we can.
“The people should have the right to choose. They deserve their vote, once the present negotiation with the EU ends.”

We all need to making our thoughts and voices heard on this. Please dont’t leave it to others - its all our futures and those of our kids.

So write to your MP, sign the facebook petition and take back control!

I have read Frank Fields article , I am not sure that his vision of left wing politics and trade unionism rising up across Europe following Brexit is something Leavers would welcome ?

chickaxe
Thank you for posting that article. I had not seen it the first time around.

Two excellent quotes
*"From holiday pay to the minimum wage, Clement Attlee, Harold Wilson and Tony Blair didn’t need European bureaucrats to impose them on us. Again and again, Britain’s social rights have been world-beating"

And

"And as Barbara Castle, that great Labour campaigner of yesteryear once argued, outside the EU we will no longer be discriminating in favour of Germans, Spaniards or Belgians and against Indians, Australians and Canadians as is required by our membership of the EU. Britain can become a proper citizen of the whole world again through a colour-blind immigration policy, and not one that serves a “little Europe” and only our closest geographical neighbours"

Totally agree op, so many people have got their head up their arses and are distancing themselves from the unfolding disaster

Who though, would expect any current politicians to introduce holiday pay and see that the minimum wage is enforced? Where for example, did the insecurities of the gig economy come from? Where were the Attlees and Castles to stop this happening?

As for colour blind immigration policies - the Windrush scandal shows that this is just a nice idea but not one honoured in practice. These people, don't forget were British citizens invited to come here. The Empire had already died by the time Castle was in Government although she may not quite have realised it; to think we can rejuventate it 45 years on is pie in the sky. I am quite sure that Australia and New Zealand would sell us food if the price was right, I don't think they would do it because they were once part of the Empire. Not only that, Attlee, Castle, Benn were not facing the rise of China as a global force.

The UK has been far more tolerant and welcoming of non-white immigration than most of continental Europe. The racism in France, the Netherlands and Italy makes you feel like you have stepped back in time.
Austria and Hungary show which way Europe is headed.

I had old friends from NZ staying with us a couple of months ago.

I could remember from when I lived there in the 70s, even as a teenager, that NZ was smarting from being "cut off" from the UK (even though transition arrangements had been put in place).

So, I asked my friends (who had been dairy farmers) what their view was now. They said it was the best thing that ever happened to them as an industry. They were forced to modernise and look for markets closer to home. They now see China and Japan as their main markets (whose populations are changing their eating habits and eating more dairy).

It always makes most sense to trade with markets closest to home.

Yaralie

It's a lote easier and cheaper to trade with markets closer to home, I can go to Dublin & Paris for tradeshows quite cheaply. Can't do that to Tokyo or Sydney.

So true Solo

It’s the gravity effect. Bourne out by the UK’s trading stars.

Completely disregarded by the Brexiteer’s darling economist Patrick Minford.

India and Pakistan are still 2nd and 3rd in the league table for non-UK countries of birth , but usual residents of the UK. Barbara Castle would be glad to know !

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