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Westministenders: A LOOOONNNGGGGGGGG Hot Summer

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RedToothBrush · 24/07/2018 19:57

May has officially demoted Raab and the Brexit Department to just being responsible for practical implimentation in the UK and not negogitions.

This shouldn't be a surprise, its been the case in reality for some time, much to David Davis annoyance.

The official government position now seems to be scare the shit out of everyone about the possibility of No Deal in order to force the EU to make a deal. Jeremy Hunt has been dutifully spelling this out, by talking about an 'accidental' Brexit.

The government are already outsourcing responsibility for this potential eventuality to industy and business by telling them they need to stockpile food in order to keep supply lines going. This WILL mean price rises will start to happen soon. It also means there is no coordinated government plan and if businesses can't afford to do this as its heavily dependant on having sufficient cash flow in reserve to be able to do it, or don't want to, then you, me and everyone else is going to be well and truly on their own. Whilst the public are not being told to stockpile, its hard to justify not doing so, if this is the current government line.

The government has also done a u-turn on when the repeal of the European Communities Act will come into force. They fought hard to have it fixed for 29th March 2019. Thats now been rolled back to Dec 2020. This is fine, but in practice, makes no difference what so ever if we have no deal or the EU refuse to honour a transition deal on the terms the UK want. The ERG will also go nuts at it and try to get May to roll back on it.

Raab has also made a point of saying that if we don't have a deal by October (rather than midnight 29th March 2019) we are going into No Deal land by default.

Parliament has now broken up for the summer, with May surviving, so things are likely to be a little quieter for a few weeks, but come September this is all going to blow up with avengance.

If you think the last few weeks have been a rollercoaster, just wait for the Autumn.

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BigChocFrenzy · 31/07/2018 12:32

susan Due to the heatwave, there are warnings here (Germany)of price rises and possibly even shortages of some foods
It's been over 30C in my area for the last 7 weeks or so, no rain, with 35-38C the last 2-3 weeks

BigChocFrenzy · 31/07/2018 12:34

That's in what's supposed to be growing in summer - some lower yields expected
Some of those staples are then stored to last until the next year's crops arrive, so it's not just shortages in Autumn

SusanWalker · 31/07/2018 12:43

Yes that's what I wondered whether we'd still be seeing shortages into next year. At which point EU farmers would decide to concentrate selling what crop they have closer to home rather than deal with the crazy fallout of no deal.

EmilyAlice · 31/07/2018 12:56

The French TV news is full of farmers complaining about poor yields this year. We had a long wet spring and now weeks of intense heat with no rain. The tomatoes, courgettes and salads in our vegetable garden are ok, but the brassica, carrots and leafy greens are a disaster. I think the vineyards suffered from late hailstorms too. There is a lot of gloom and doom around (though that is not unknown amongst our farmer friends 😀).

Motheroffourdragons · 31/07/2018 13:24

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BigChocFrenzy · 31/07/2018 13:32

Corbyn is waiting & hoping for a no deal crash, so a desperate public give him carte blanche.

"When your enemy is making a serious mistake, don't interfere"

Most Labour MPs must be pretty tempted to wait too - he won't be around for long and they'd hope to get a soft left leader in afterwards

So, depends on a lot of Tory MPs deciding to avoid any hard Brexit and then maybe persuading Labour to back them

DGRossetti · 31/07/2018 13:38

It's all brinkmanship. Like a game of KerPlunk.

All sides are waiting for an explosion of chaos, when they can act under cover of peoples lives collapsing.

We've all seen "Downfall". We can all imagine what's going on the the BrextBunker. Some of us in German Grin. Ma credo che suona meglio in italiano Smile ?

BigChocFrenzy · 31/07/2018 13:39

A new version of Downfall to be produced, relocated to No.10

DGRossetti · 31/07/2018 14:58

Nigel Farage left speechless, apparently

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 31/07/2018 15:20

Nigel Farage left speechless, apparently
If only that could be permanent

DGRossetti · 31/07/2018 15:32

I didn't even know there was a Shortage Occupation List until today ...

www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration-rules/immigration-rules-appendix-k-shortage-occupation-list

I'm not too sure about it's usefulness though. For example, it doesn't have "decent politicians" as a shortlisted occupation. Despite the UK having none as of today ....

DGRossetti · 31/07/2018 15:39

Echoes of the joke that we should have removed such warnings 6 months before the referendum ....

OlennasWimple · 31/07/2018 15:47

The shortage occupation list is a curious beast... It's informed by industry experts, government stats and a bi of lobbying. Hence past inclusions of sheep shearers, ballet dancers and curry chefs

OlennasWimple · 31/07/2018 15:47

bit of lobbying...

DGRossetti · 31/07/2018 15:49

The shortage occupation list is a curious beast... It's informed by industry experts, government stats and a bi of lobbying. Hence past inclusions of sheep shearers, ballet dancers and curry chefs

Ah, so that'll be the wankers who want 100+years experience in a niche field ideally starting as an unpaid (or even paid-for-by-the-intern) internship, and then when no one applies will whinge that the UK has a "skills shortage".

I thought it might be something serious.

OlennasWimple · 31/07/2018 15:54

It's serious, as in employers who want to sponsor a visa for someone on the shortage occupation list have fewer hurdles to jump

It's also got roles on it like you describe Smile

EmilyAlice · 31/07/2018 16:27

Love this tweet from Adam Payne
Amazing: The government said plans to turn 13 miles of the M20 into a lorry park — known internally as project "Brock" — had nothing to do with Brexit. However, Kent Council pointed out that Brock was as an acronym for "Brexit Operations Across Kent".
😀

EmilyAlice · 31/07/2018 16:28

Although as somebody daid, that should be BOAK

EmilyAlice · 31/07/2018 16:29

Said not daid

Mrsr8 · 31/07/2018 16:31

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DGRossetti · 31/07/2018 16:38

If nothing else, there's some wry amusement to be had from Brexiteers having to fight wildfires of "scaremongering" wherever they look.

SingingBabooshkaBadly · 31/07/2018 16:45

(Btw, what did you mean by “or worse!”)

Talkstotrees. Grin GrinGrin
I suppose I was thinking I hope people don't think we're gullible, ill-informed leave voters who voted for £350m a week or - worse still - nasty, racist, bigoted leave voters who voted out to get rid of the "forriners"!

Talkstotrees · 31/07/2018 17:04

Singing GrinGrin

Turns out I’m a nasty remoaning snob Shock

Have some more Flowers cos I’m still feeling horribly guilty Sad

HesterThrale · 31/07/2018 17:26

TM is invited to President Macron's holiday home in the South of France. Maybe he'll talk some sense into her?

www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-45023594