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Westministenders: A LOOOONNNGGGGGGGG Hot Summer

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RedToothBrush · 24/07/2018 19:57

May has officially demoted Raab and the Brexit Department to just being responsible for practical implimentation in the UK and not negogitions.

This shouldn't be a surprise, its been the case in reality for some time, much to David Davis annoyance.

The official government position now seems to be scare the shit out of everyone about the possibility of No Deal in order to force the EU to make a deal. Jeremy Hunt has been dutifully spelling this out, by talking about an 'accidental' Brexit.

The government are already outsourcing responsibility for this potential eventuality to industy and business by telling them they need to stockpile food in order to keep supply lines going. This WILL mean price rises will start to happen soon. It also means there is no coordinated government plan and if businesses can't afford to do this as its heavily dependant on having sufficient cash flow in reserve to be able to do it, or don't want to, then you, me and everyone else is going to be well and truly on their own. Whilst the public are not being told to stockpile, its hard to justify not doing so, if this is the current government line.

The government has also done a u-turn on when the repeal of the European Communities Act will come into force. They fought hard to have it fixed for 29th March 2019. Thats now been rolled back to Dec 2020. This is fine, but in practice, makes no difference what so ever if we have no deal or the EU refuse to honour a transition deal on the terms the UK want. The ERG will also go nuts at it and try to get May to roll back on it.

Raab has also made a point of saying that if we don't have a deal by October (rather than midnight 29th March 2019) we are going into No Deal land by default.

Parliament has now broken up for the summer, with May surviving, so things are likely to be a little quieter for a few weeks, but come September this is all going to blow up with avengance.

If you think the last few weeks have been a rollercoaster, just wait for the Autumn.

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DGRossetti · 26/07/2018 12:06

Gary Lineker entering the fray ...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44957901

Former England footballer Gary Lineker has backed the campaign for another EU referendum, saying Brexit feels like it is "going very wrong indeed".

The BBC Match of the Day presenter said some things in life were "more important than football".

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SwedishEdith · 26/07/2018 12:12

Stockpiling in the short term will be sold as a boost to the economy

Absolutely. I can almost compose the Andrea Leadsom already.

Plus, supermarkets will profiteer.

SwedishEdith · 26/07/2018 12:13

*tweet already.

TheElementsSong · 26/07/2018 12:20

Stockpiling in the short term will be sold as a boost to the economy

Agreed.

And Leavers will joyfully parrot this line. I notice they've gone quiet on the stockpiling threads, because thus far they haven't been spoonfed thought of a positive way to spin it, and have temporarily reverted to "Stop talking about it/ you lost we won" "Look a squirrel".

FishesaPlenty · 26/07/2018 12:21

And that's before bananas are a thing of the past.

What, because of reduced access to the vast EU banana plantations?

TheElementsSong · 26/07/2018 12:26

That Apathy AIBU thread is a thing of beauty, a roll-call of Leavers all ironically bumping the thread each time they post, so very angrily, that the discussion should be stamped out Grin. I don't suppose it's occurred to them that if they just stayed off the thread, it wouldn't be so active?

FishesaPlenty · 26/07/2018 12:28

Stockpiling in the short term will be sold as a boost to the economy

I doubt it - they're going to be importing imported goods after all. Grin

RedToothBrush · 26/07/2018 12:28

I'm waiting for tins of beans going for £10 on ebay.

Brexit opportunities here.

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SusanWalker · 26/07/2018 12:33

Only if they're Branstons. Other beans are only worth £8 or less.

FishesaPlenty · 26/07/2018 12:36

*stockpiling imported good after all.

ConstantlyCold · 26/07/2018 12:47

I'm derailing this a bit now: look at what's happening in the thread I started in AIBU. Immediately attracted negative posts about how MNetters don't want to talk about it and how we should stay in our corner. I hope it's not a reflection of wider society (probably is)

Definitely not a derail. I have a horrible feeling you might be right.

The vast majority of the population aren’t actually all that involved in politics. Back to despair for me Sad

GhostofFrankGrimes · 26/07/2018 13:11

The apathy thread in AIBU has been reported. Clearly a blanket ban on all political topics is in order given the danger of Brexit creeping into them Hmm

I wonder if the leavers that acquired Irish passports post referendum are stockpiling?

DGRossetti · 26/07/2018 13:15

You have to ask what happened to the Mumsnet that stole headlines and got the scoop on PM and leader of the Oppositions thoughts about biscuits ?

TheElementsSong · 26/07/2018 13:16

The apathy thread in AIBU has been reported.

It's a full house of enraged Leavers and faux-ex-Remainers. Hard any actual Remainers that I recognise on there. So, like I said, in attempting to stifle the discussion, it's the Leavers who keep bumping the thread.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 26/07/2018 13:19

You have to ask what happened to the Mumsnet that stole headlines and got the scoop on PM and leader of the Oppositions thoughts about biscuits ?

Penis beakers are more enlightening.

Icantreachthepretzels · 26/07/2018 13:23

And that's before bananas are a thing of the past.

Well - at least the leavers won't be able to see that the bananas are too straight... or were they too bendy? Either way it was vitally important Better no bananas at all than a banana of improper curvature. The people have voted for freedom from the wrong shaped bananas - and don't you dare tell them they didn't know that meant freedom from bananas full stop. They knew what they were voting for.

Only if they're Branstons. Other beans are only worth £8 or less.

Branston Beans? What perversion is this? Beanz Meanz Heinz. Any other brand of bean should be unsellable. We may be living in a post apocalyptic Armageddon land of the Brexit Holocaust - but we're not savages

I started stockpiling food and bedding for my bunnies yesterday. I can go hungry - but how on earth am I meant to explain it to them?

SacrebleuLondres · 26/07/2018 13:26

@Icantreachthepretzels yikes. No more bananas?

As an aside the bendy bananas restriction actually emanates from the UN - Codex Alimentarius. I think it refers to odd shapes.

But don't tell Leavers that. Might burst their bubble.

Motheroffourdragons · 26/07/2018 13:27

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DGRossetti · 26/07/2018 13:34

Bananas are under threat, as (like Irish potatoes) almost all the worlds cultivated banana are of the same genetic stock ...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana

While in no danger of outright extinction, the most common edible banana cultivar Cavendish (extremely popular in Europe and the Americas) could become unviable for large-scale cultivation in the next 10–20 years. Its predecessor 'Gros Michel', discovered in the 1820s, suffered this fate. Like almost all bananas, Cavendish lacks genetic diversity, which makes it vulnerable to diseases, threatening both commercial cultivation and small-scale subsistence farming.[76][77] Some commentators remarked that those variants which could replace what much of the world considers a "typical banana" are so different that most people would not consider them the same fruit, and blame the decline of the banana on monogenetic cultivation driven by short-term commercial motives

DGRossetti · 26/07/2018 13:40

Perhaps every separate piece of news needs it's own thread ?

Bar jnl gb xrrc guvatf sbphffrq Grin

This is about farming ....

inews.co.uk/news/armageddon-scenario-no-deal-brexit/

The National Farmers’ Union said a ‘no deal’ Brexit would lead to an “Armageddon scenario” for the British agricultural industry.

NFU president Minette Batters warned that “crashing out of the EU” with no trade deals in place must be avoided, and previously said Brexit could well leave the farming sector on the “brink of collapse”.

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TheElementsSong · 26/07/2018 13:55

I am very pissed off though that MNHQ keep shutting down the discussion on the main boards.

The panicked rage-filled prolific postings of the Leavers whenever any vaguely Brexit-related comes up elsewhere is very telling. There's a thread on AIBU about moving abroad - the opening post (to my reading) is all very calm and reasonable. But because it mentioned the "B" word to give context, there are Leaver posters leaping in to shout YABU and demand the thread is moved.

DGRossetti · 26/07/2018 14:04

I think MNHQ may have confused themselves with the BBC ...

RedToothBrush · 26/07/2018 14:07

I started stockpiling food and bedding for my bunnies yesterday. I can go hungry - but how on earth am I meant to explain it to them?

I hate to break the news about the Brexit Armegadon and what it means for your bunnies.

If things get really bad, there will be panic buying at Pets at Home and I don't mean for rabbit food, the same way you do.

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