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Westministenders: May's Turd Way covered in Donald's Glittery Tickertape from his Parade

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RedToothBrush · 10/07/2018 17:29

Where next?

Auditions for chief turd polisher to Mrs May are in full action, whilst those who don't believe in the turd, wade about knee deep in their own shit, still searching for that illusive plan for Brexit which doesn't stink to high heaven of crap.

After the dual resignation of Davis and Johnson, amongst the stench there is an air of uncertainity and expectation of all hell breaking loose.

In the last 48 hours we have been told that

  1. May is more secure having crushed the brexiteers,
  2. May about to be ousted by a no confidence vote, triggering a leadership election,
  3. The Tory Party are about to split,
  4. Brexiteers are in disarray fighting amongst themselves,
  5. We will remain in the EU,
  6. We get an EEA deal,
  7. We will get no deal,
  8. A People's vote is inevitable and
  9. There will be a General Election.

Which only serves to merely highlight just how little of a clue ANYONE has about what happens next.

What bothers me now, is that Johnson seems not to have surfaced yet and there are rumours that Gove has gone to ground, whilst Donald Trump is practically on the plane and is stirring the pot praising Johnson.

Instead we seem to have a series of junior ministers and Tory HQ figures quitting in a long drawn out coordinated toy throwing out of the pram exercise, to try and get what hard brexiteers want.

If I had to hazard a guess at the general silence from key figures, I might be tempted to say that someone is going to use Trump's visit to throw a political grenade and actively invite him to endorse them.

That might sound ridiculous given that the public hates Trump, but that loses sight of the fact that the people who will vote for the next leader of the Tory Party are overwhelming authoritarian leaning and likely to be those who like Trump and would be impressed by such a move.

I note this tweet today from the wise Sarah Kendzior:

Sarah Kendzior @sarahkendzior
"There are parallels to past authoritarianism, but what's happening with Trump, in the digital age, is new and transnational. The president's loyalty is not necessarily to a state but to foreign leaders and multinational criminal alliances. The state is just something to sell."

It is clear that others in the parliamentary party will be very alarmed at the prospect. There were Tory MPs who were openly tweeted how please that disgusting Johnson had gone and are no fans of Trump.

May still seems to think that she can get her plan through and approved by the EU in its current form. The White Paper is due on Thursday.

Much speculation is that it will be significant if she fails to produce this on time, as she will have capitulated to the Brexiteers. And this will lead to the EU just giving up on us anyway.

She also announced to the Cabinet today, that preparations for No Deal were to be stepped up significantly.

We still are left wondering who, she is stitching up; the Brexiteers whose heads are currently exploding or the friends she keeps closest to her (friends? or ideological enemies).

The problem is that there just no other viable way forward at the moment, as the country is divided, both Labour and the Conservatives are divided and are more interested in their own future than that of the party and there are far too many ambitious 'celebrity MPs' who want to make their mark. No one gives a shit about ordinary workers or business. Plus there is the divine observation that DGRossetti made at the end of the last thread: The biggest obstacle to Brexit has been Brexiteers

The grab for post-Brexit power shows the whole of Westminister up as the cess pit of self interest it is, with Boris Johnson merely its biggest figure head.

Wait until the GFA officially has its head put on the chopping block awaiting its fate. Perhaps we can flog NI to Donald and get a Brexit Dividend afterall.

I must admit to finding it hard to have a view that is altogether different to this:
James Patrick @J_amesp
There is no way back from all of this. The next seven days simply decide how badly - on a scale of fucked to smouldering crater - it is going to end.

One final predictation, which I am DAMN certain of: Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday are all going to be grim for political watching if you are into democratic values and principles. It will be a 4 day sales pitch for Brand Trump in all its All American Overblown Horror that Brits tend to find utterly distasteful. Expect the red carpet of full of turd glitter to be rolled out for Donald Trump Show. Expect May to embarass herself in her fawning all over him, as if she's star struck. Expect that hideously cringeworthy photo thats totally inevitable.

Politics is going to get worse. It may never get better.

(But yay football gets to cover it all up... Come on England!)

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ConstantlyCold · 10/07/2018 21:36

I am almost loving the way Brexit is like one of those double glazing cons that ropes in nice, honest pensioners

I’m sure there was a case recently when a customer was being conned. The bank staff had to call the police to stop them sending money and convince them it was a con.

It’s so hard for people to admit they’ve made a mistake.

frumpety · 10/07/2018 21:36

Quentin so funny because it's true Grin

RedToothBrush · 10/07/2018 21:38

www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-politics-44788407?__twitter_impression=true
Parliament harassment plans falls short of staff hopes

MPs will sit in judgment of other MPs - which has already shown itself up as ridiculous and unfair
No historic (pre 2017) claims can be reviewed
Clerks are getting back system which has already been demonstrated doesn't work.

And fourth this has to pass through parliament - unwhipped - at a time when a quarter of the Tory party have spat the dummy.

So all Leadsom's hard work coming up with a plan which is a total farce, looks like it will go to waste.

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Hasenstein · 10/07/2018 21:41

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frumpety · 10/07/2018 21:49

I like Dominic Greave , no shouty nonsense , no ridiculous soundbites , just, dare I say it, honest information about why continuing down the Brexit road is a very bad idea for the country. It almost sounds as though he cares about something other than his own political machinations. He also seems to be getting more airtime recently.

BrexitWife · 10/07/2018 21:52

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/sajid-javid-puts-eu-nationals-back-on-high-alert-over-future-1-5600009
For those of us who are EU citizens

Mr Javid said: "There will be a complete, total end to freedom of movement.

"Freedom of movement as we understand it today will end. There will be no version of that, no derivative of that, no back door version of freedom of movement.

So basically, if you want to stay in the uk, it will have to be with a visa like anyone else.... and yes that includes doctors, nurses etc...
Is that why the app for the settled status is still not ready??

The 3 millions has been sending emails saying there was no need to panic yet. Well ... I’m not so sure......

SusanWalker · 10/07/2018 21:55

TUC South West
TUC South West
@TUCSouthWest
Cornish pasty-makers Crantock Bakery set to close with the loss of 109 jobs. Higher cost of raw materials blamed following Brexit vote but priority now is to help workers.
10:29 AM · Jul 10, 2018

frumpety · 10/07/2018 21:59

Gah spelt his name wrong !

BigChocFrenzy · 10/07/2018 22:05

May is fundamentally stupid & arrogant,
very obstinate & ignorant, because she is too inflexible to let herself be open to new ideas, to learn anything new

She is a fundamentally weak & insecure character:
She was easily controlled & manipulated by Spads Nick Timothy & Fiona Hill
She backs down and gives any militant Brexiter MP the answer they want to hear

Her "master plan" - if she ever got that far - would be Brexit by Baldrick

BigChocFrenzy · 10/07/2018 22:09

Brexitwife Until the WA is actually written, signed and approved by all parties, nothing is fixed,
including expat rights

RedToothBrush · 10/07/2018 22:09

I am wondering when we will get the 'Turnip Plan'.

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BigChocFrenzy · 10/07/2018 22:12

I'm amazed that May blocked Merkel from answering questions at the press conference
(after the Balkans meeting in London, which Boris sacked off)

Totally weird
Merkel looked pissed off - maybe the last time she visits London while May is PM

BigChocFrenzy · 10/07/2018 22:14

May has interpreted "Take Back Control" as licence to indulge her inherent control freakiness & authoritarianism

RedToothBrush · 10/07/2018 22:15

FB fined maximum £500,000. Both sides in referendum under criminal investigation.

Does that mean Cameron AND Johnson can share a cell?

(Let me dream)

Westministenders: May's Turd Way covered in Donald's Glittery Tickertape from his Parade
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BigChocFrenzy · 10/07/2018 22:17

Don't raise your hopes just because 75/80% of the WA has been agreed

Anyone who has done science / tech / IT projects with defined targets knows that the final 20% can easily take 4 x as long as the first 80%

RedToothBrush · 10/07/2018 22:17

Joy.

Westministenders: May's Turd Way covered in Donald's Glittery Tickertape from his Parade
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woman11017 · 10/07/2018 22:17

@AllieHBNews
Wednesday’s FINANCIAL TIMES: UK watchdog fines Facebook over Cambridge Analytical data scandal” #bbcpapers #tomorrowspaperstoday

@StevePeers
3m3 minutes ago
1 Facebook fined maximum for breach of data protection law

2 Company linked to Cambridge Analytica faces criminal prosecution

3 Referendum campaigns under investigation for breach of data protection law

SusanWalker · 10/07/2018 22:17

@senatornoone
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11h
'Best solution would have been for Ireland to leave once the UK decided to' - the arrogance of the brexiteers is phenomenal

#TodaySOR #brexit @MiriamOCal

RedToothBrush · 10/07/2018 22:19

Steve Peers @ Stevepeers
1 Facebook fined maximum for breach of data protection law

2 Company linked to Cambridge Analytica faces criminal prosecution

3 Referendum campaigns under investigation for breach of data protection law

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BigChocFrenzy · 10/07/2018 22:22

500k fine is pathetic - the EU has the balls & the laws to fine US multinationals billions

FB worldwide profits in 2017 were $4.7 billion, so a 0.0005 billion fine isn't even a fleabite

RedToothBrush · 10/07/2018 22:28

Theresa has organised a second away day for her cabinet, in Newcastle on the 23rd July.

Is she trying to give them a reason to resign by then? How much is the taxi back to London going to cost?

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BigChocFrenzy · 10/07/2018 22:40

The press here (Germany) rarely bother to report UK govt machinations over Brexit, but the resignations were the lead stories.

Not in a sense of "Wow, we must compromise to support May"
but more
"Look at what those idiots have done now"

Consensus is that she is very weak and the govt are incompetent idiots - so no change there

Headline in one of the main papers:
"Ministers run away from May"

Westministenders: May's Turd Way covered in Donald's Glittery Tickertape from his Parade
lonelyplanetmum · 10/07/2018 22:41

Theresa has organised a second away day for her cabinet, in Newcastle on the 23rd July.

Oh save me. Save me. I have had occasional positive thoughts about TM.

That decision to meet up there is exactly what should be happening. Parliament could relocate temporarily if Westminster gets its building works done.

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