Westminstenders: Don't Panic!

[RedToothBrush]

It's official

Brexit is like an episode of Dads Army with the government, being Captain Mainwaring's trusty band of elite forces doing battle against the evil Mr Barnier.

Yesterday Parliament gave back control to the executive as it surrendered parliamentary sovereignty to Janus faced May. Grieve, it has to be said, truly did look like a broken man as he gave his speech in the commons. Not that we should have too much sympathy. After all he did just put party before country.

So where are we now? The ERG are happy. They have successfully bullied enough until everyone else gave up and folded. They now have no incentive to compromise, as they know that no one can stand up to them. They want no deal, and it's no deal they will force.

The EU are thoroughly fed up and it's difficult to see them do anything but cut us loose saying Brexit means Brexit, this is what you wanted. They have stepped up planning for no deal and their plans were already much more advanced than ours.

We go into the next round of talks with a solution to the Irish Border looking further away than ever. Not helped by the fact that brexit nationalism is restricted to England alone, with many being happy to let NI be sunk into the Irish sea and the favour the rebuilding of Hadrian's wall in order to keep out the foreigners.

It's hard to resist simply sitting down wailing "we doomed". But try to resist and keep saying, you are against this crap. If only so history books don't just say we all agreed to this clusterfuck.

Here have a fluffy bunny to help comfort you.

If the Japanese government had acted like ours, there would be a large pile of corpses on swords outside Westminster.

Arch Brexiteer Bernard Jenkins is already blaming the EU for Airbus (BBC lunchtime news).

Apparently Airbus should be lobbying the EU for a deal, and not bothering the UK government as it’s soooo not their fault

in the context of multinationals moving staff - i'm with a large IT services corp and we dont move staff between regions, apart from secondments/specific projects - we just adjust staffing levels - since the vote, our uk workload has stopped growing, so margins have shrunk, but the rest of the world has grown ~11% - so weve recruited / acquired in those parts of the world.

Arch Brexiteer Bernard Jenkins is already blaming the EU for Airbus (BBC lunchtime news). Apparently Airbus should be lobbying the EU for a deal, and not bothering the UK government as it’s soooo not their fault

Moron and cretin then.

What part of "no cherry picking" did he not understand, when the EU told the CAA (in the nicest possible way) to "fuck off" ?

Airbus are well aware that they are at the back of the queue. Remember, the UK still hasn't settled the 4 prerequisites for trade talks yet. And we've a parliamentary recess coming up.

@frankiestein
There are many ways of skinning a cat, as you obviously appreciate.

Yes, Damn those 'furriners' at the EU for writing the rules down then having the temerity to follow them! How unsporting of them.

Did anyone see Farage on daily politics today? Still coming out with the same old cliches, although I did like the bit when he started wittering on about the political classes and Jo Coburn pointed out he was part of the political classes. He was going on about EU grants to airbus, I mean how very rare the EU give grants to a huge employer in the UK. Who do they think they are?

They also showed a video of him on fox news supporting trumps child separation policy, which shows you the kind of man he is really, not that we didn't know that already.

Brexiteer blames everyone but themselves for natural consequence of Brexit? In what way is that even news?

Anyone listening to R4? Apparently BMW have said they need clarity this summer.

Brexiteer blames everyone but themselves for natural consequence of Brexit? In what way is that even news?

England are playing this weekend, so we need a laugh ...

Has anyone any of those "how Brexit will work" type timelines from the pre-referendum epoch ? Might be illuminating to see one or two, and note what bits were wrong, and by how much.

Obviously the first one that springs to mind was that come 2018 the EU would have disappeared in a puff of smoke, as the mighty UK unplugged it's life support.

Now we "have" Brexit (thank you MPs), I'm quite happy to pick a pre-referendum pledge (because remember, they were pledges. Not "aspirations". as Brexiteers told us, only losers vote for "aspirations". These are facts) and hammer any Brexiteers with "why hasn't that happened yet ?", then rinse and repeat.

dg I only did a short bit of reading before the school run this morning but it's apparently Europe wide and caused by ammonia plants being closed for maintenance. Obviously there's a lot of detail missing there.

Apparently BMW have said they need clarity this summer.

Well ain't that a shame then.

I emailed MNHQ yesterday to see if Brexit could be made more prominent as it will stuff everyone

Won't make any difference. Some (lots of?) people hide the EU Ref pages because, you know "it's boring". Anyone who starts a thread about Brexit will often get told by some busybody to have their thread moved to the EU Ref pages so it can be hidden.

Parody? Gotta be. Please. [cry]

dg I only did a short bit of reading before the school run this morning but it's apparently Europe wide and caused by ammonia plants being closed for maintenance. Obviously there's a lot of detail missing there

well, obviously. No danger of anything remotely needing brainpower in the UK MSM.

TL;DR is that CO₂ is produced as a by-product (so more profit !!!!!) of ammonia manufacture, which is mainly for fertiliser and made in winter. Stocks were unexpectedly depleted by the May heatwave (????) and manufacture has yet to catch up.

Luckily we don't need CO₂ for any military uses then ?

Now I've had a chance to think about it, there is a Brexit angle to this (as indeed there is to everything). In this case it highlights how incredibly unresilient and delicate a lot of European industrial operations are. If a few days of sunshine can cause a summertime shortage of CO₂ enough to affect the monster sales the World Cup bring ...... ??????????

I also note that the UK is unable to supply itself with CO₂ ...

I would write more, but something in my head is screaming Haber-Bosch process. And nobody needs that.

Apparently BMW have said they need clarity this summer.

Shame that the MPs are all going on their long summer recess then

Swedish people have no clue.

Parody? Gotta be. Please.

As DG pointed out upthread, there is apparently no Leaver argument so nonsensical that it couldn’t be parody.

Parody ?

Well could be. But there really are people that thick out there.

That Tweeter was probably in the same league as the person that thought a magnetic keeper was a person who came with the magnet to keep it dusted ("O" level howlers (c) 1980).

That's what I was wondering DG, that and if they were closing for maintenance surely there was some warning and plans could have been made. If you were the sort of place/country/etc that made plans of course.

Thanks for reminding me I wanted to dig a bit deeper on that, because on the surface it seems very mismanaged. Hopefully I'll remember to have a good look later on when I get the DC to bed.

Who remembers the petrol "shortage" early 2000s ?

... Ryanair has faith in Brexit.

I'm pretty sure 'Ryanair' aren't very keen on Brexit, actually.

@Tambien
Sorry I read your post as the people of Sweden have no clue.
Just listened to R4 as suggested. Is it just me but were all the questions and comments about Brexit rather woolly?
It's OK though, the 14,000 jobs can go and the workers can get dole money (paid out of the tax of everyone else who has a job that week).
MN still think that dress choice is far more important than Brexit.

Hi - I'm just setting out for London... I'm not able to find anything conclusive about where the march is starting - everyone seems to think it;s some place different. Where are my fellow MN marchers starting from? I want to be at the beginning not join in half way through.
TIA

Is Ryanair Eire or NI based?
If NI then they may not be flying anywhere.
If Eire then not to the UK but around the outside avoiding UK airspace.