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Yet Bear Yet! Remember the last time this happened with plutonium. The guy lived on for ages until he died.

@Doubletrouble99

Litvinienko

Polonium. Not plutonium.

From Russia. Again.

Good to see we've reached a managed decline transition deal.

The Skripal case is a cock up
They were meant to die at home so it could be staged to look like suicide or heart attack.
Them sitting on the most popular bench in the centre of the City was NOT the Putin plan.
The nerve agent is a dual chemical one - somebody got the ratios wrong and has probably already been shot back home in Mother Russia

Putin must be seething that its a news story
as its overshadowed his great election victory.

Saw reports yesterday that it is possible it was administered through their car’s ventilation system - seems a bit of a gamble doing it that way?

Thanks for the correction Olivia. I knew that wasn't quite right!

Agnes
Lots of Porton Down staff live in and around Salisbury.
There are few dumber cities for a messed up Nerve agent attack to be carried out.
I wonder when the deaths of the two of them will be announced though?

Don't mean to be pedantic @Doubletrouble99

Polonium is a nasty beast and is incredibly rare. Seems mostly to be produced in Russia.

Talkin something so readily identifiable as a poisoning and that Skripal must have been on a watch list so an unusual death would be flagged, makes me think it was intended as a “look what we can do”.

How do the Brexiters feel about today's developments? Happy with the transition deal?

@Talkstotrees

Whatever. Not a big deal really. All expected.

Would have wanted to see progress on Ireland but that seems postponed

How do the Brexiters feel about today's developments? Happy with the transition deal?

So the UK can do own trade deals during this period, though not take effect until we leave! equally very surprised EU nationals coming here will have full rights as if we were still in EU...no decision making making but subject to all EU rules etc etc no renegotiation of fishing quotas and of course still paying in?

whats not too like lol! unbelievable really, we just back down to pretty much all the EU wants every time.
i thought this would happen which is why i voted to remain.

That's exactly it Agnes, It's really is 'look what we can do'!

Trees - things seem to be falling into place just need the Irish border sorted.

Things will be falling into place on the road to the sunlit uplands just until it's effing unbearable even for the zealots. As long as I can afford my popcorn I'm fine too :)

So BINO until at least 2020 then- marvellous!

All throughly worthwhile.

Speak for yourselves, salaried public office time for the otherwise unemployable Leave politicians plus possibly some payouts via Arron for the most devoted to Vlad's agenda.

Transition deal, then another extension, then a bit more transition. Finally, when it is obvious that BINO is what will happen they will have another referendum.

The politicians just want a bit of time and space till public opinion calms down.

Transition deal, then another extension, then a bit more transition. Finally, when it is obvious that BINO is what will happen they will have another referendum.
The politicians just want a bit of time and space till public opinion calms down.

I beg to disagree, we are leaving full stop, they ll be no further referendum or extension of the transitional agreement (as that ll mean contributing into another 4 year eu budget) and nor will we rejoin in our life times, to do so we'd need to adopt the euro and lose our opt outs, no-one in the UK will ever agree to losing the £.

the only way it could be delayed is if the eu27 vote down the final deal but thats out of our hands.

Considering how long brexitiers have waited for this moment, another 20 months of delay wont matter.

"I beg to disagree, we are leaving full stop, they ll be no further referendum or extension of the transitional agreement"

... and you @jasjas1973 know all this because? :D

Transition deal, then another extension, then a bit more transition. Finally, when it is obvious that BINO is what will happen they will have another referendum.

I think the 'finally' here is 'Theresa May is brought down or resigns' and there'll be another GE, not another referendum.

Fuck knows who'll win it though.

The only way this could happen...... means there is a way.

It could be delayed and fudged for a while. When the final offer is agreed do we need a parliamentary report? Will we have a GE before we finally leave?

I'm not saying this will happen just suggesting that delays are the traditional way to change policy when no one is looking.

Isn't the problem with this idea that we will have left on 29/3/19 so no referendum/GE will allow us to remain - we'd have to rejoin. Tbf, why da fuq would they have us bunch of disruptive, exceptionalistic twats back? Assuming that by then they have worked out a way forward without us, any rejoinging might be on significantly worse terms?

@Cupofteaandtoilet

We haven't signed anything yet. The easy bits of transition have been agreed.

Ireland is still looming and it won't be resolved.

Olivia, I may be wrong (occasionally am ), but I thought we had given notice (via Article 50) to leave the EU on 29/3/19. Unless we withdraw this notice (if that is even possible), we will be leaving, no?

If we leave, we are no longer members; no amount of can-kicking and/or fudging can change that. So, we need to make lots of noise now.