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Westministenders: One for the Women

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RedToothBrush · 08/03/2018 10:23

Just remember that women are more likely to be worried about Brexit.

Their women's and workers rights are more at risk from departure from the EU, the ECJ and potentially the EHCR.
They are more likely to be worried as EU citizens in the UK due to taking time to have and raise families.
They are more likely to have been badly affected by austerity and an economic downturn will hit them first.
If they are leavers they are more likely to have changed their minds.
They are less likely to be MPs so have less representation.
They are more likely to be feeling politically unrepresented by any party and unsure of who they will vote for at the next election.
They are more likely to get abuse for expressing a political opinion. Many report having been subjected to sexual harassment from political colleagues.
They are more likely to be the target of abuse on social media.
They are earn less than their political colleagues, they earn less than their media colleagues, they earn less than their business colleagues. They are less likely to be in powerful lobby groups.

Then there's #metoo

And to cap it off women's groups are finding it hard to get their voice heard, and are frequently being labelled as hysterical or bigoted for merely wanting to discuss things and be reassured that their fears are acknowledged. They are frequently dismissed as liars or over sensitive.

This is 2018.

It doesn't feel progressive. It doesn't look equal.

Brexit has more of an impact on women.

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woman11017 · 08/03/2018 12:15

Brexit has more of an impact on women
Look at the crackers who paid for it!
Cheers red as always. Smile

woman11017 · 08/03/2018 12:19

Not sure if these are the impact assessments Jo Maugham tried to get released, but on Faisal Islam's account extracts are going up now.
Faisal Islam

@faisalislam
Well... Commons Brexit committee publishes the full 29 page official internal Brexit Impact study first leaked to @AlbertoNardelli and then further leaked to @skynews

Cailleach1 · 08/03/2018 12:22

I don't think the ultra brexiteers care. I don't think it is a case of the GFA being in the way of their exit and therefore it is to be thrashed whatever fallout. I think people like Gove and the DUP always wanted to rip the GFA up. They hate that it gave gives parity of esteem and the possibility of self determination in NI, with a vengeance. Oh, clever enough to cloak it in 'giving in to the terrorists'. As if the majority of people who voted for it were working on behalf of terrorists. People were crying out for something to be done about the rot in NI.

It is not that they just don't care what happens with the GFA. A few would be positively happy if it was torn away. A brexit bonus.

woman11017 · 08/03/2018 12:22

Probably not very clear, but here are some:

Westministenders: One for the Women
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DGRossetti · 08/03/2018 12:23

I'm saying the year clock is now back to 1978 ?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-43328566

Two men have been arrested after a video of racist slurs being shouted in university accommodation emerged.

Rufaro Chisango tweeted the video of the abuse which included "we hate blacks" while locked in her room at Nottingham Trent University (NTU) halls of residence on Wednesday.

NTU has suspended the "suspected perpetrators" pending inquiries. Two 18-year-old men have been arrested on suspicion of racially aggravated public order offences.

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woman11017 · 08/03/2018 12:25

unrolled thread:
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mrsreynolds · 08/03/2018 12:30

Thanks red x

Hasenstein · 08/03/2018 12:30

The Eu has just published a draft resolution on potential future relations between the EU and the UK..

Item 45 covers the UK's position on tax avoidance, money-laundering etc., particularly with regard to British Overseas Territories. The lack of clarity about financial dealings with those territores has long been a bugbear of the EU.

Given the identity of many media owners (Murdoch, Barclay Brothers, Rothermere), numerous politicians with overseas holdings and wealthy individuals with dubious Trust arrangements (and both Cameron and May have refused to permit the establishment of a Register of Trusts), it's easy to see why they're worried about ATAD and why no mention is ever made of it.

If BOTs were to come under the purview of ATAD, it would expose a lot of dubious dealings which have hitherto been kept from public view.

From memory, ATAD comes into force just after Brexit day next March.

Here's the Draft Resolution:

www.europarl.europa.eu/resources/library/media/20180307RES99232/20180307RES99232.pdf

woman11017 · 08/03/2018 12:31

I assumed that incident was happening in a US deep south ku klux klan state rosetti; a young woman BAME student trapped in her room while boorish young white men chant racist abuse outside.

It was Nottingham, here and now.

I don't like this brexit britain much. It is creepy.

This is where I was in 1978
We marched through the national front east end, faced them down, and they could see how the numbers stacked up. Grin
And The Clash weren't bad either.
www.theguardian.com/music/2011/jun/14/punk-rock-against-racism

Cailleach1 · 08/03/2018 12:34

The one about R-M unilateral import tariffs to zero. I remember Pascal Lamy (a bit experienced) saying to Andrea Leadsom "what would you have to offer in negotiation in any fta. Everyone would already have access to your markets." To paraphrase.

lonelyplanetmum · 08/03/2018 12:41

To add to my long list the other day...

John Lewis and Waitrose reported a 77% fall in profits.

Seventy seven???

All thanks to the Brexit-linked weakness of the pound - pushing up costs at the same time as the supermarket was trying to keep a lid on prices.

They also made 1,440 redundancies.

There was a really tangible indicator at Waitrose when instead of the fancy promotional stuff they were promoting the value basic range.

Dobby1sAFreeElf · 08/03/2018 12:58

Jo Maugham has tweeted that this is just one of the papers they were after.

This is interesting though
@iandunt
Here's the link to the Brexit impact assessments the DExEU committee have published. Notable they only saw fit to annex one bit of it
won't include link as its the same as posted above

Westministenders: One for the Women
Dobby1sAFreeElf · 08/03/2018 13:01

Also, these two tweets
twitter.com/AlbertoNardelli/status/971725501625757696

Sostenueto · 08/03/2018 13:05

Will May give EU fishing rights? I know that's what EU want but I thought the fishermen ( those that are left) had a firm promise from the government that that wouldn't happen?

DGRossetti · 08/03/2018 13:05

And The Clash weren't bad either.

Taking off his turban they say "Is this man a Jew ?"
They put up a poster saying "He earns more than you."

AgnesSkinner · 08/03/2018 13:06

how we got from joining the Common Market to being in the European Union

But even back in the late 1960s it was recognised that the EEC wasn’t just “a common market”.

In 1967 the then Prime Minister Harold Wilson said to the House of Commons:

“But whatever the economic arguments, the House will realise that, as I have repeatedly made clear, the Government’s purpose derives, above all, from our recognition that Europe is now faced with the opportunity of a great move forward in political unity and that we can and indeed must — play our full part in it.” Prime Minister Harold Wilson, 2 May 1967. Source: Hansard

In 1972 the then Prime Minster Edward Heath said:

“The community which we are joining is far more than a common market. It is a community in the true sense of that term. It is concerned not only with the establishment of free trade, economic and monetary union and other major economic issues, important though these are — but also as the Paris Summit Meeting has demonstrated, with social issues which affect us all — environmental questions, working conditions in industry, consumer protection, aid to development areas and vocational training.” Source: Illustrated London News. Prime Minister Edward Heath, December 1972

And a link to the UK government Yes pamphlet for the 1975 referendum - which makes it clear that the purposes of the EEC were more than just trade.

www.harvard-digital.co.uk/euro/pamphlet.htm

Sostenueto · 08/03/2018 13:09

Agnes that jogged my memory thank you. For a wonder I voted not to join it.Smile

DGRossetti · 08/03/2018 13:13

Not sure if all other supermarkets are in the same bind, but I've noticed quite a few items have disappeared from Sainsburys stock range. Just encountered another ...

Peregrina · 08/03/2018 13:17

Sostenueto - your memory is at fault. You didn't vote not to join - we were already in when we had the 1975 vote.

Sostenueto · 08/03/2018 13:18

Oh! I'm wrong again Sad

AgnesSkinner · 08/03/2018 13:21

1975 referendum:

67.3% voted to stay in
32.7% voted to leave
64.6% turnout

Peregrina · 08/03/2018 13:40

The difference being in the 1975 referendum that the Mail was all for it.
However, that referendum didn't split the country in the same way. Maybe because it was a vote for the status quo, whereas now it's a vote for a pig in a poke at best.

Dobby1sAFreeElf · 08/03/2018 13:45

Maybe because it was a vote for the status quo, whereas now it's a vote for a pig in a poke at best.

missmoon · 08/03/2018 13:58

This is a good summary of the just-released Brexit impact studies (in 5 charts): uk.businessinsider.com/5-charts-secret-brexit-impact-study-damage-threatened-by-leaving-the-eu-2018-3

prettybird · 08/03/2018 14:07

The iniquity of the EU expecting full access to fishing is a red herring (sorry! 😂)

These articles are old - but at least they were written before accusations of Project Fear and demonstrate the UK Government's somewhat messed up approach to fishing except when they want to blame the EU Hmm

They point out that fish don't respect sea national boundaries Wink, hence the need for quotas and stock management across those boundaries and in the 2nd article, that much of the UK's quota had been sold on to foreign vessels and that EU regulations to protect local smaller fishing vessels was not being implemented by the UK Government Confused don't know if it has been since https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/nov/04/english-fishing-quotas-foreign-businesses-greenpeace

http://theconversation.com/fact-check-is-80-of-uk-fish-given-away-to-the-rest-of-europe-39966

Useful and appropriate Plaice Mat King 🐠🎣👑 Wink