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Westministenders: Money, money, money

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RedToothBrush · 22/11/2017 21:52

The big developments are that the government have signalled they are prepared to pay more and to involve the ECJ when it comes to citizens rights on condition that we move to talk of trade. But no apparent progress on NI. Which is significant with Ireland threatening to veto.

The EU has not changed its stance at all. Since Day 1.

There is always a worrying omission and lack of commitment to retain the Charter of Fundamental Rights. The bonfire begins.

Talk is of Green still going in a reshuffle, possibly with Gove replacing him as Deputy PM.

Coalition talks in Germany have broken down, and the British have got excited about it, whilst the German response have largely been a slight shrug.

Its been a much quieter week, despite the budget. Thank goodness. There are lots of outstanding issues that are lurking in the background like the Green one though.

The main message coming from the budget, has not been any new policy, but the dreadful economic forecast for the next few years.

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Motheroffourdragons · 28/11/2017 16:55

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BlueEyeshadow · 28/11/2017 16:58

There are American Anglicans. They usually go under the name Episcopalians over the Pond. Anglican does not equal CofE.

howabout · 28/11/2017 17:02

On the Meghan gossip front:

1 CofE rather than UK State requirement to get baptised and confirmed.

2 Assume she would be independently wealthy enough to come live in the UK with or without Harry.

3 Currently getting a crash course in the foibles of the UK constitution and conventions so citizenship test should be a breeze. (would have to check but assume the Queen can grant ex gratia citizenship in any case?)

Peregrina · 28/11/2017 17:06

I can't see how she could have been brought up as a Catholic without being baptised and making her first Communion. Those nominal Catholics of my acquaintance usually go along with this.

LurkingHusband · 28/11/2017 17:10

I wonder if the choice of wedding venue was affected by current events (as this thread might indicate) ? HmmHmmHmmHmm

I'm trying to remember Andrew & Fergie. Did they have a big bash.

(Showing my age now) I'm sure we had a day off when Princess Anne married the first time.

Hasenstein · 28/11/2017 17:12

Many people have been claiming that this royal wedding malarkey is just a look-a-squirrel diversionary tactic to distract us from more serious issues currently affecting the country. Seems to be working on this thread!

Sorry, don't want to sound arsey, I'm just a bit of a republican. Grin

LurkingHusband · 28/11/2017 17:13

I'm just a bit of a republican.

Aren't we all now ?

Oh, no, sorry. That's "Brexiteer".

EmilyAlice · 28/11/2017 17:13

Yes Andrew and Fergie had a very big bash. We did have a day of for Princess Anne (and for the Coronation I remember).

mrsreynolds · 28/11/2017 17:15

I'm a LOT of a republican

Motheroffourdragons · 28/11/2017 17:18

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Hasenstein · 28/11/2017 17:19

mrs reynolds

Yes, sorry, wrong figure of speech. Should have said "Swivel-eyed foaming republican"!

Motheroffourdragons · 28/11/2017 17:19

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OlennasWimple · 28/11/2017 17:22

Rhiannon - it's got the slightly cringey title of Game of Queens, by Sarah Gristwood (I'm guessing the publishers chose the title)

I just did a quick google to check that the Queen can indeed grant citizenship using her prerogative powers, and found this discussion from 7 years ago, which used the example of Harry marrying a forriner Smile

Motheroffourdragons · 28/11/2017 17:22

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Peregrina · 28/11/2017 17:24

I was going to say that I wasn't old enough for the Coronation, but then recall that this comprises one of my first memories. I have a memory of going to a big marquee, and everyone turning to look at us because we were late, and clutching something in my hand. This event was apparently a party laid on by the Church and we children were all given a bar of chocolate, which was what I would have been clutching. It's only years later that I found out that was the Coronation.

At the time of Anne's wedding and Andrew's they were third and second in line to the throne, respectively. Whereas Harry has already been bumped down to five, soon to be down to six.

mrsreynolds · 28/11/2017 17:25

When Charles and di got married I was 9
The village had a street party and a fancy dress comp
My sis and I went as...charles and di!
I refused point blank to be Diana who annoyed the ever living shit out of me even at 9, and so my sister wore her communion dress and veil and I borrowed my cousins naval regalia...he served on the arkroyal... and I wore his hat which I'm sure he wasn't aware of
We won...
A folding stool
🤔
I went swimming to the local baths when Andrew and Fergie got married. I just had no interest at all.
I won't be watching Harry's nuptuals

OlennasWimple · 28/11/2017 17:25

Mother - I think that the Catholic needs to get permission or dispensation to get married in a CofE church, but this is not normally refused

mrsreynolds · 28/11/2017 17:26

I was raised Catholic and my dh Methodist
We got married at a C of E church with no issues
not my idea but dh was keen

Motheroffourdragons · 28/11/2017 17:28

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LurkingHusband · 28/11/2017 17:28

I think that the Catholic needs to get permission or dispensation to get married in a CofE church

It certainly used to be the reverse: a CofE congregant needed Vatican dispensation to marry in a Catholic church (or cathedral Smile)

Motheroffourdragons · 28/11/2017 17:29

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Peregrina · 28/11/2017 17:35

Well, I as a Methodist got married to a then practicing Catholic in 1977 and we didn't have to get any special permission from anyone that I recall. We had a nuptial mass, although only the Catholics could take part. I still go to Church, DH lapsed from Catholicism about 35 years ago. There were mutterings from some in DH's family that we had got away with breaking the rules - which is part of the reason why he rejected Catholicism.

EmilyAlice · 28/11/2017 17:39

My first royal memory was Queen Mary’s funeral. I was sick in the middle and my mother smacked me.
I have set my French U3A students a task to read, compare and contrast news reports in the Guardian and the Mail this week. No prizes for guessing what they will be about....

Peregrina · 28/11/2017 17:42

Even the Guardian can be a bit OTT about Royal Weddings.

EmilyAlice · 28/11/2017 17:44

Yes I picked the wrong week.

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