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Petition: Parliament's vote on the Brexit deal must include an option to remain in the EU

133 replies

Imbroglio · 20/11/2017 23:52

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/205169

Tin hat on.

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AgnesSkinner · 21/11/2017 18:55

Not a Brexiteer, but that sounds like a good excuse to buy a Chesil Speedster.

Imbroglio · 21/11/2017 19:54

Buy British has been done before... not a great success.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_Backing_Britain

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Imbroglio · 21/11/2017 20:08

Ah well, the petition is well over 18k. It was about 15k when I signed.

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Peregrina · 21/11/2017 21:20

British Made and British owned, so if you have a family car, what will you replace it with?

Nearer to home - you need a new vacuum cleaner - Dyson would be the obvious choice, except that he's shifted production to Malaysia, so that's no good.

Is your hobby sewing? We don't make sewing machines in the UK any more, and increasingly they are not made even in the rest of Europe.

BTW I am old enough to remember the I'm backing Britain campaign. Note that it was before we went into the Common Market, which with its successor EU is supposed to be the source of all our ills, so why was there a campaign? We subsequently discussed why it had gone wrong in an A level economics class. Poor productivity was to blame from what I now recall.

lljkk · 21/11/2017 21:32

"avoid buying anything from the EU..."

omg, everything we buy is part of multiple crossing production chains. Say you buy a pot of margarine. Half ingredients from UK but other Half the ingredients from EU & rest of world, pots manufactured in country X from plastic potion made in country Y with dyes stamped on mixed up in Country Z.

Globalisation has brought efficiency & more skilled jobs & consistent higher standards, too.

prettybird · 21/11/2017 22:04

I think a Reliant Robin was 100% British Wink

Viviennemary · 21/11/2017 22:09

Hold fire, Vivienne, at this rate in a few months' time we won't be able to afford anything from the EU.

Even I can't argue with that. Grin

Catalufa · 21/11/2017 22:12

Signed

SoulStew · 22/11/2017 06:30

It’s too late now. We’d have to apply again, and we would get really shitty terms. I’d say it’s all going to be fine, but I know remainders hate hearing optimism.

GreenPurpleRed · 22/11/2017 07:07

Signed.

I do like the 'I've told you I don't want to be your friend and now you're being mean to me' quips about the EU.

Imbroglio · 22/11/2017 08:21

We may have damaged ourselves but I don't think we should assume that changing our mind would necessarily be more damaging than Brexit with no deal or Brexit with a bad deal. The EU has a vested interest in making sure Brexit doesn't encourage others to leave, so the terms of staying are likely to be attractive enough to make reversing the referendum result worth the risk.

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Imbroglio · 22/11/2017 08:22

There might be riots but I'm afraid we might have riots anyway.

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CardinalSin · 22/11/2017 09:50

Well, the Leave voters haven't shown themselves to be all that motivated to protest. Anyone remember Farage's Million people marching on Parliament?

RhiannonOHara · 22/11/2017 09:52

Anyone remember Farage's Million people marching on Parliament?

Yes, exactly. I can't see civil war erupting if we just quietly dropped Brexit.

Peregrina · 22/11/2017 10:00

Anyone remember Farage's Million people marching on Parliament?

Indeed, I think he mustered 200 max. We Remainers on the other hand managed 100,000 at the end of March, which somehow the BBC didn't think was terribly newsworthy, finding the sole UKIP MP turning independent as the major item. Then we had 50,000 in London, back in September, with large demos also at the Tory Conference.

time4chocolate · 22/11/2017 14:08

I don’t think Leavers need to march or protest at the moment do we? Unless I have missed something we are still planning on leaving.

Viviennemary · 22/11/2017 14:23

It's the long goodbye. What a farce. It's like waiting for parole from prison. Roll on freedom.

OliviaD68 · 22/11/2017 14:32

@Viviennemary

Freedom from what?

BMW6 · 22/11/2017 14:40

Why would a leave voter be motivated to protest that we are leaving??? Confused

OliviaD68 · 22/11/2017 17:34

@BMW6

Gives them something to agitate about. If Brexit happens there will be nothing left.

Imbroglio · 24/11/2017 09:26

Budget and new forecasts have totally depressed me. I wish I knew how much of it was due to Brexit.

Anyway - petition up to 22k.

(I'm fascinated that you can see how many people have signed in your constituency).

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WhollyFather · 24/11/2017 09:36

Of course the referendum was binding, please don't keep repeating that lie. Parliament said it was, Cameron said it was, even the government's propaganda leaflet said it was : 'This is your decision. The government will implement what you decide.'

Feel free to add your name to this silly petition but we voted to leave and leave we will. That's democracy.

Imbroglio · 24/11/2017 09:37

The government propaganda leaflet said lots of things.

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Imbroglio · 24/11/2017 09:38

And please don't tell us how we can or can't express our views. That's democracy.

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AgnesSkinner · 24/11/2017 10:41

Budget and new forecasts have totally depressed me. I wish I knew how much of it was due to Brexit.

The OBR would like to know that too:

Given the legal requirement for the OBR to produce its forecasts on the basis of current Government policy, we once again asked the Government to provide us with any detail on post-Brexit policies in relation to trade, migration and EU finances. The Government directed us to the Prime Minister’s Florence speech from September and a Department for International Trade white paper: ‘Preparing for our future UK trade policy’. These set out further detail on the Government’s objectives with regard to an ‘implementation period’ and the principles of future trade policy. But the outcomes will depend on further policy development by the UK authorities and on the continuing negotiations with the EU. We were not provided with any information that is not in the public domain.

cdn.budgetresponsibility.org.uk/Nov2017EFOwebversion-2.pdf

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