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Westministenders: A week in politics is a long time....

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RedToothBrush · 05/11/2017 12:28

Lost track of politics in the last week or so?

Someone asked how do I keep on top of this? I’ve struggled this week there is so much going on.

Brexit seems to be on a bit of a back burner and we have become utterly swamped in mud and sleaze and corruption allegations

So here is a summary of the last week:

  1. Government defeated over the impact reports due to an ancient parliamentary protocol. They must release papers to the public though this is likely to be heavily redacted.
  2. Currently we are holding talks about talks with the EU. Instead of speeding up talks. They are annoyed at us for this.
  3. Baroness Anelay, the minister responsible for getting the Repel Bill through the Lords, quit citing an injury caused by jumping out of a helicopter several years ago. She was the second person to quit this role. Lord Bridges quit saying it was impossible task.
  4. Michael Gove has joined the Brexit Cabinet, which now has a majority of Leavers.
  5. There is currently no one employed at the Brexit department for strategic planning.
  6. Brexit Bill likely to face even more opposition in the face of Williamson’s self promotion. More Remainers who have been loyal to May talking of joining the Rebel Forces.
  7. The has been a threat to rig the Lords to pass the Repel Bill according to Lord Adonis
  8. Clegg, Adonis and Clarke went to see Barnier. Farage got jealous.
  9. Talks for Stormont broke down. No direct rule but not home rule. Who is ruling is a mystery, but the same can be said in England at present. DUP are not getting their dosh.
  10. FTA may not be possible on lines UK want as it would be better than Canada and South Korea and that’s not legally allowed. The real problem for the UK is services.
  11. EHCR related issues – prisoner voting rights and letter to Romanian which brings into question whether the EHCR is deliberately being flouted.
  12. Clause in the data protection bill which allows it to be ignored ‘cos immigration’.
  13. The Electoral Commission are being sued for allowing over spending by Vote Leave
  14. Arron Banks is being investigated by the Electoral Commission over how he donated to political causes
  15. UKIP whistleblowers reported donations they thought were odd and not declared but only just has come to light
  16. Arron Banks is winding up a charity under investigation by the Charities Commission
  17. Arron Banks paid for Kate Hoey to go to Washington DC.
  18. Lord Ashcroft apparently exposed by the Bermuda hack, like Robert Mercer
  19. Steve Baker reported for taking money from the mysterious donor to the DUP
  20. Priti Patel breaks ministerial code with an undisclosed trip to Israel with lobbyist. May says she has done nothing wrong, despite it being clear breech of the rules.
  21. Michael Fallon quit over multiple incidents
  22. Damien Green embroiled in accusation over Kate Maltby. Also having a fight with former counter terrorism copper who he has history with over ‘extreme porn’ found on his computer during a raid. Copper previously said he had been set up in the paper but dropped the accusation. Green is denying everything
  23. Charlie Elphicke has had the whip removed and case has been referred to police. Says he has done nothing wrong and isn’t even aware of what he has been accused of.
  24. Steven Crabb under investigation for sexting. Has apologised.
  25. Michael Garnier under investigation for dildo buying. Has apologised
  26. Daniel Kawcyznski allegedly tried to set up dates with aides and wealthy friends
  27. Dan Poulter reported by fellow tory MP Andrew Bridgen for allegedly putting hands up skirts. Whips told in 2010.
  28. Chris Pincher alleged pound shop Weinstein who attempted to untuck the shirt of former Olympic rower and tory activist Alex Story.
  29. Gavin Barwell former whip and May’s special adviser. Broke special advisor code by tweeting politically controversial things. Is accused of being complicit in hiding the bodies and not taking action.
  30. Gavin Williamson gave himself a promotion and pissed everyone off. As former whip knows all the dirt but is vulnerable as a result of that, as he didn’t report or discipline offenders.
  31. ‘The Lift Lunger’ – as yet unnamed Tory MP said to have ‘attacked’ Labour MP in taxi. Date rape drugs possibly involved.
  32. Boris Johnson, Alok Sharma and Tobias Ellwood all named as having contact with the mysterious Maltese professor named in the Papadopoulos indictment.
  33. Farage makes anti-Semitic remarks on LBC. That’s Farage, a person of interest to the FBI.
  34. Three indictments in USA for Trump Russia. Which implicate a whole load of people by association.
  35. Some stuff is going on in Saudi Arabia which should have half an eye kept on it.
  36. Jared O’Mara, Clive Lewis, Ivan Lewis and Kelvin Hopkins on the Labour Shit List. Also a rape allegation against a Labour activist which was shut down by a senior Labour figure

This week the Repel Bill and the Budget. Plus no doubt, lots more scandal.

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IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday · 08/11/2017 22:20

That petition is gathering numbers! As I was signing you can see you numbers shooting up!

The whole govt is a complete joke. We’re fucked aren't we?Angry.

LurkingHusband · 08/11/2017 22:23

Peter Hitchens

a phrase best followed by "...can fuck right off." I think.

LurkingHusband · 08/11/2017 22:25

Boris Johnson: a man whose reach exceeded his grasp. The shame of it is, he was a very good TV historian IMHO.

LurkingHusband · 08/11/2017 22:28

Ed Miliband

Incredibly cliquey-nerdy, but I'll be interested to watch the RHLSTP just just recorded with Ed. Should be out in a few weeks...

LurkingHusband · 08/11/2017 22:34

seen elsewhere ..

Prexit Grin

Violetparis · 08/11/2017 22:46

Ashley Cowburn, reporter at The Independent has tweeted that Iran state TV are citing Boris's comments as 'proof' of the case against Nazanin. Think the focus will move back to Boris.

woman11017 · 08/11/2017 23:03

Times:

Westministenders: A week in politics is a long time....
BigChocFrenzy · 08/11/2017 23:17

Govt in dire straits

Maybot and a lost majority
DUP bung
Priti Patel resignation
Michael Fallon resignation
Replaced by chief whip with zero ministerial experience
30+Tory MPs - sexual harassment, investigations, even police
Boris Johnson risking 5 more years jail for Nazanin
Dark money & Tory donations
Paradise papers & the dodgy rich
Tory election fraud - prosecutions, battle bus, Welsh call centres,
Total chaos over Brexit
Henry VIII clause
Universal credit
Two child benefits cap
Rape clause
Foodbanks
Unaffordable housing
NHS services cut
Fire service cuts, Grenville
Police cuts, terrorism
School cuts, Grammar Schools
Zero hours work
Train Strikes
Saudi arms sales
Dementia Tax
Foxhunting
.... probably much more, but I can't keep track

The govt are drowning and dragging the country down under with them

BigChocFrenzy · 08/11/2017 23:26

The tax haven lobby (prime movers for Brexit)

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/nov/07/tax-haven-lobby-superb-penetration-uk-government-paradise-papers

A lobby group representing offshore businesses spoke of having “superb penetration” at the highest levels of the British government

before a G8 summit that was expected to bring more transparency into the sector.

The International Financial Centres Forum worked frantically behind the scenes to thwart a regulatory overhaul that would have introduced new obligations for Britain’s overseas territories and crown dependencies.

BigChocFrenzy · 08/11/2017 23:34

Torygraph tomorrow leads with "another day, another crisis"

imo, a major reason for govt chaos in all areas is total panic: they see Brexit could kill the Tory party electoral prospects for a generation
Every possible choice leads to disaster

I suspect many Brexiters in Parliament - and the dark money sources - want the govt to collapse, so that Labour have to carry out Brexit

BigChocFrenzy · 08/11/2017 23:36

Judging by the Brexit threads elsewhere, I don't think MN Brexiters are anywhere near that politically sophisticated though.
So they'll support this zombie govt to its end

CardinalSin · 08/11/2017 23:52

Ah, Peter Hitchens.

Ungentlemanly of me it may be, but I always think the wrong brother caught cancer.

RedToothBrush · 08/11/2017 23:53

In Feb 2016 the guardian published this article:

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/22/tories-eu-referendum-conservative-party-europe
A plea to my fellow Tories: don’t turn the EU vote into another circular firing squad

The Conservative party has a once in a lifetime opportunity to bury the Europe hatchet: by avoiding the fratricidal fury that turned my hair white in the 90s

By Andrew Mitchell

It gets increasingly prophetic.

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RedToothBrush · 08/11/2017 23:57

www.scotsman.com/news/politics/scottish-tories-call-on-theresa-may-s-government-to-change-brexit-bill-1-4607454
Scottish Tories call on Theresa May’s Government to change Brexit Bill

The Scottish Conservatives today call on the UK government to alter the Brexit Bill to avoid a constitutional crisis and to counter SNP claims of a power grab. Writing in The Scotsman, the leading Scottish Tory Adam Tomkins warns the legislation must be delivered in a way that “respects” devolution and will have to be “amended” to satisfy the Scottish and Welsh governments.

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OlennasWimple · 09/11/2017 00:09

bigChoc - interesting to note who is not on your list

Gove, for one....

HashiAsLarry · 09/11/2017 07:07

Saw this yesterday but it got a bit buried in the squirrel invasion.
Not high political news, but lends to the dodgy ethos of politicians and as consensual stuff is apparently list worthy I thought I should share because it made me laugh too

Sabina Vankova‏
@sabinavankova
Just ended the relationship with @lembitopik - the woman with whom he spent Monday night can have him now all for herself.

mrsreynolds · 09/11/2017 07:21

Agree with you there cardinal

Peregrina · 09/11/2017 07:31

they see Brexit could kill the Tory party electoral prospects for a generation

Please let this happen.

EmilyDickinson · 09/11/2017 07:45

I'm puzzled as to why Priti Patel is beaming in all the photos taken of her yesterday. Is she one of those people who smiles when she's nervous? Does she like the attention, good or bad? Or is she pleased to be - resigned. Is it part of the plan?

Also, did anyone else think Boris's comment on Patel's resignation was interesting? He said something like, "She has a great future ahead of her." Presumably only if May goes?

Motheroffourdragons · 09/11/2017 08:08

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Ballsfffftpsss · 09/11/2017 08:08

"I'm puzzled as to why Priti Patel is beaming in all the photos taken of her yesterday. Is she one of those people who smiles when she's nervous? Does she like the attention, good or bad? Or is she pleased to be - resigned. Is it part of the plan?"

Yes I noticed this too. Maybe her PR agency instructed her to look confident upbeat and unbeatable, she looks like she won the jackpot. or she is a narcissist loving the attention

Does anyones else think that on some photos she looks like a rounder, older version of Kate Middleton?

EmilyDickinson · 09/11/2017 08:12

I assumed that she was allowed to resign rather than be sacked because May can't afford to make any enemies.

Ballsfffftpsss · 09/11/2017 08:13

""She has a great future ahead of her." "
Endorsing someone who made covert official visits with a highly sensitive country whilst lying to her boss and the public Hmm
She probably has knowledge of stuff forcing May to let her resign instead of getting the sack.

Motheroffourdragons · 09/11/2017 08:15

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lalalonglegs · 09/11/2017 08:25

TM is likely to be rumbled anyway - Tom Watson was on Today saying that he'd written to her to ask for more details about the trip. Apparently, PP had meetings with British diplomats in Jerusalem while she was there so he wants to know why the government weren't aware of this...

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