Westminstenders: Beano or Bust

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The last week has seemingly been eventful but not in the way that's on the surface.

It's what's going on behind the scenes and the little comments in less high profile speeches that's more telling.

On the one hand the Norths think the May speech is a laying down "an offer" that the EU can not accept, in order to set up a no deal situation.

On the other hand Telegraph Journalist Peter Foster thinks there things going on in Brussels with the EU set to compromise in someway and help May present a deal acceptable to the British. You have to wonder whether the "presentational" stuff is about a deal to essentially be in the EU but not in the EU. A Brexit Existing in A Name Only. Beano.

It's difficult to tell, and it will come down to brinkmanship over timing. For both a deal and for the Repel Bill as the two sides in parliament try to push things to their limit for their own ends.

In this vacuum of uncertainty CBI and their "arch enemies" the TUC have put out a joint statement saying no deal is nuts and will screw every one and the way EU cits have been treated has been dreadful.

As it stands it does look like May is serious about a deal and Davis is also acting in this way. Johnson and Hannan have launched their Institute for Free Trade (at the foreign office breaking ministerial code, but hell there's no consequences these days anyway cos May dare not let Johnson off the Brexit hook) in retaliation to try and retell the Brexit story as always being about free trade rather than racist. Unfortunately leavers seem to have bust that by admitting they are considerably more racist than Remainers by their own admission.

Then there's Trump and Bombardier. Just as Brexiteers are pushing for this closer relationship with the US in trade, despite May personally lobbying Trump he fucks her over slapping 220% tariff on Bombardier and putting the future of 4000 jobs at risk. This was inevitable as Trump fucks everyone for his own gain. The US won't ride to the aid of the British capitalists. They'll just eat them alive.

This week sees an important vote by the European Parliament on Brexit red lines. One of the votes states that the UK has to either stay in the customs union and internal market or NI has to have a special arrangement and stay in the customs union and the internal market in order to protect the EUs border integrity. Neither is compatible with what the Cons and the DUP have said they want.

It's also the Tory Party conference.May's big speech, in which she must throw red meat to the swivel eyed loons on right, is on Weds. There are of course, no debates at ConParty because, well, they can't behave like good little children without supervision. Instead the conference is to, erm... yeah we'll find out next week.

www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/uk-manufacturing-september-output-decelerated-unexpectedly-cost-pressures-economy-eu-brexit-survey-a7978111.html
UK manufacturing output decelerated unexpectedly in September as cost pressures intensified, finds latest survey
Factories' input costs also rose at the fastest pace in March, reflecting a spike in commodity prices

Not sure why this is viewed as happening "unexpectedly"

So sorry to hear you've been affected by the Monarch crash, woman, Peregrina and any other affcetd Westministenders
I hope you can still enjoy your hols as planned and that you get all your money back from Monarch

That's culling the poor and sick, maybe not those prosperous elderly Tory voters

Thanks BCF, naughtily, I'd thought, if an airline had gone bust while I was out of the country, it would be a lovely excuse to stay on indefinitely, elsewhere. But it's happened quicker than I had expected.

YepLH it's the first big one. Banks anyone? Not the arron one.

Someone has linked to this from August on twitter, Ian Dunt has subsequently retweeted:

www.conservativehome.com/platform/2017/08/j-p-floru-how-to-inoculate-your-children-against-socialism.html
J.P.Floru: How to inoculate your children against socialism

And what about sharing? Make sure that your child realises that he or she is free to share or not. By all means tell them it would be a good idea, and morally recommendable, but never force them. Never make them share as a matter of course. And never ever take your child’s private property away – except in the most extreme circumstances.

Never allow micro-communism to creep into your household. It will seem tough to the young person, as it was for me when my parents did precisely that. I thought it was unfair when, for example, I had to contribute to buy a new bicycle which I used to go to school; or to buy the desired box of lego. Yet decades later, my account has never been in the red. I never expect anybody else to subsidise my lifestyle. And I have limitless admiration for people who make it in the free market economy and no time at all for socialist rantings.

Ian Dunt‏*@IanDunt*
Might start shouting "MICRO-COMMUNISM" in the street whenever I see anyone sharing anything.
Old woman tearing up bread and feeding the birds. "MICRO-COMMUNISM!" Man asks for a light outside the pub. "MICRO-COMMUNISM!"

Does this explain why hard right tories are shit at social media as they were taught as children not to share???!

I don't think banks are too at risk, yet. Solvency II has pumped up the volume to give them leeway.

My concern would be more insurance and investment houses - especially in the light of Mark Carneys "nudge" last week. They might unilaterally decide that writing less business is a prudent course of action.

The problem with that - certainly for insurers - is that margins are already wafer-thin. Any reduction in Gross Written Premium could start to eat into reserves.

Not sure about "micro communism" but the Lurking household finished last night with a random episode of "The Thick of It", where the coalition are approached to set up "micro banks" ... The we bank ...

Pesky Marxist chocolates:

😁

Re the "inoculating against socialism" approach, teaching children that they don't need to share if they don't want to....

Need to remember to also ensure that the little JRM's they learn that they don't need to share their sweets even though they already have so many they'd be sick if they ate them surplus because they could sell it to buy more sweets they can't eat and that they don't acquire moral values like "sharing if you see someone in need" or nasty unnecessary feelings like "empathy"

During the ge I saw a lot of posts basically along the lines of I voted (insert non right wing party of choice) because I care about the lives of others, etc.

With micro communism the Tories aren't really showing that to be much of a falsehood.

Very very concerned at the govt not condemning the police violence in Spain
Sign of things to come?

The govt won't want to condemn anyone dealing harshly with civil dissent
if they expect to be doing similarly in the next few years

Remember the very first planning in DexEU was reported by JDD (RN blob) to be for martial law in tnher event Brexit went pear-shaped

RN blog !
I'm Mumsnetting while enjoying a lovely big German cheese Brezel with a glass of Federseisser [bliss emoticon]

Very very concerned at the govt not condemning the police violence in Spain

Maybe there's scope for a (mischevious) uk.gov petition calling on the UK government to recognise the will of the people of Cataluyna ???

I'd sign.

I presume J.P.Floru has never taken out a mortgage if he clams proudly that he's never been in the red.

I have nothing against mortgages but it always amazes me how sanctimonious gits some well-off people go on about the evil of debt and how it's the irresponsible poor's fault for getting themselves into dire straits, while they sit on an enormous mortgage themselves because in their minds that's not debt

They're only a redundancy or a bank crash or business collapse away from being foreclosed themselves. As many food bank users will attest (One of Our local food banks tells the story of a well dressed couple who were sent to them in desperation, were given some support and then a number of months later, came back with a massive donation because they'd managed to turn things around but were so appreciative of the support they'd been given in their time of need but I don't think that's the sort of thing that JPF is meaning; after all JRM said that the only reason more people are using Food Banks is because more people know about them )

Yes, I imagine May taking note of what a PM can get away with, against dissenters
DD, Boris, Moggie too - as her probable successors < shudders >

Boris would probably recite another poem from our imperil past, as the death toll rose

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/spain-torn-apart-as-850-hurt-in-catalan-referendum-riots-3glprtngh

Riot police who bludgeoned, kicked and fired rubber bullets at voters taking part in an illegal referendum in Catalonia yesterday
acted within the law, the Spanish prime minister said.

imperialist past

*mortgage"

death-pledge.

Maybe time to revive tontines .

Friend of mine on FB posted a picture of a riot policeman laying into a woman in a wheelchair with a baton

Way to go

Matthew Holehouse‏*@mattholehouse*
"We don't want cod wars," says Brexit ministers Steve Baker re fishing policy

Good luck with that.

I seemed to remember seeing there was a government response on Catalonia. It seems to be this:

Boris Johnson

✔@Borisjohnson

The Catalonian referendum is a matter for the Spanish govt & people. Imp that Spanish constitution respected & the rule of law upheld. (1/2)
Spain is a close ally and a good friend, whose strength and unity matters to the UK. (2/2)

Not too different from anything that's been said 're Trump, so not a major surprise.

Also, something in that makes me wonder if they want to see what Spain can get away with should NI and Scotland try for independence soon.

I wonder what the majority non Catalan view is about independence ?

For myself, if NI or Scotland ever felt like leaving the UK ... well it's their choice. Aren't they adults now ?

Jennifer Williams‏*@JenWilliamsMEN*

12 references to Corbyn by name in Hammond's speech. Not that they're worried

Laura Kuenssberg‏*@bbclaurak*

Average age of tory party is apparently 71

John Redwood‏*@johnredwood*

The lack of reaction by the EU to the dreadful scenes in Catalonia shows their lack of understanding of democracy.
johnredwoodsdiary.com/2017/10/02/commiserations-to-catalonia/
This is a parody account right?

createstreets‏*@createstreets*
Next Conservative logo should be a House says @montie at @unherd housing debate #CPC17 Will housing top Brexit as issues at next election?

Kate Webb‏*@KateBWebb*
Huge applause at #CPC17 fringe as @montie rightly lays into Help to Buy. Calls for social housing instead. (Applause pending).

Kevin Schofield‏*@PolhomeEditor*
Ruth Davidson: "I don't think the party needs saving, it needs to get over its current nervous breakdown." #CPC17