Westministers: May Shares the Cake

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May's Speech Abbreviated:

We still have nfi how we are going to do this. EU this is your fault. You sort it out. We are too lazy, workshy and fighting like high school children to work it out ourselves. Be our whipping boy.

I support democracy as long as I get to do whatever I like
I support human rights as long as I can ignore them when I like.
I support the rule of law except when it doesn't suit my agenda.

Waffle waffle.

"Creative", "Dynamic" PR for my Premiership.

Waffle waffle

We really need policing cooperation, PLEASE keep it with us. I know I threatened to withdraw this, but I'm sorry, I was wrong and a bit of a dick about this.

Gets to the point FINALLY.

"2 year transition period"

(With another time bomb lock which is still too short for IT departments. Nothing to do with the next general election, honest).

RULE BRITANNIA!

Polite Applause.

There's a Jaffa Cakes thread?

Also yabe, a lot of food is imported so if the pound drops it becomes more expensive. Those costs will either be pushed onto the consumer or the goods won't be bought in the first place. If the money markets really believe the U.K. will crash out, the £ is likely to drop.

On shortages and riots - the fuel protests in 2000 resulted in shortages, panic buying and more shortages. Panics and riots can be very quick to trigger, and can't be controlled not even with water cannons.

It would certainly be a worst case scenario, but it always is until it happens. Syria 10 years ago was comparatively stable. Now it isn't. I don't think any if it was expected, even if it was foreseen. Not that I think for a moment it will be that bad, but it could be bad enough that it's worth buying some extra rice and pasta with the food shopping.

thecatfromjapan thank you. There isn't going to be a very sudden change in price though, hopefully? Would a no deal scenario mean we are out right away or in March 2019? Until March 2019 (e.g. brexit without a transition period) not much can change surely as we haven't brexited yet?

I realise that I must sound naive.

I am hoping to get to the Manchester demo: is anyone else going?

I'm supposed to be booking a holiday tomorrow for the end of October for me and the younger worlds and now I don't know whether to.
Also dd's gcse year and I'll be furious if her future is disrupted or put at steak.

Stake!

In rl nobody talks about Brexit.

Where I am a lot of people talk about Brexit. People in scientific research are already leaving the country. However, we still have to carry on with our day to day lives.

I've not been able to get butter in Lidl for a few weeks now. Even asked the checkout girl and she confirmed that there was a problem - but didn't know the detail as it was only what she overheard the managers talking about the order. Even cream has been in short supply.

I suspect that there is a major price rise coming through: this happened with Brazil nuts - they disappeared off the shelf for weeks and then came back at a much higher price.

I bought two cartons of uht milk the other day to start off my stash. Think I'd better speed things up a bit. Do you think the electricity could be effected? I know we use French generated electric when we are low. I wonder whether to get a little camping stove.

I can't actually believe I am thinking about this but somehow it feels like it could happen.

In rl nobody talks about Brexit. People are busy updating their nice autumn wardrobe, new trees for the garden, looking a kitchen redesigns. Do we really all have our heads in the sand? Love Here too, but that is part of the problem.

Firstly the whole reason the vote swung the way it did was that those who had no opportunity to look at kitchen redesigns and were using foodbanks instead swung behind all those Tory voters who did.

Secondly your head is in the sand, because the money to buy all those kitchen redesigns, certainly in my area, comes from providing services, financial, not just banking but accountancy, tax, management consultancy, creative. It is 70% of the economy.......

When John McCain eventually succumbs to the cancer he is suffering from (I understand his prognosis is not good at all), I hope he will lie in state at the Capitol and be given a hero's sendoff.

I thought of Syria too as an example of how things can go downhill very quickly (not that the situation is in any other way comparable).
I think if May flounces we will have a Labour government by the spring, though I don't trust them to put party before country and prioritise stopping Brexit above other issues.

Mc Cain was pro choice too, math?

The defeat at this stage of the GOP ACA bill is testament to the power of peaceful protest, and a coalition of activists across the political divide.

Inspiring.

@KillBrexitNow

The "Kill Brexit Now" Judicial Review documents can now be downloaded.

killbrexitnow.blogspot.co.uk/2017/09/the-kill-brexit-now-judicial-review.html …

There's a lot of interesting reading there.

Something called the Real ID Act will go into effect in 2018. The law, passed in 2005, requires state driver’s licenses to meet certain security standards to be considered a valid federal ID you can use at airport security checkpoints.

www.latimes.com/travel/deals/la-tr-passport-month-application-renewals-september-20170922-story.html

Posted, because, with this HO, one can never tell what they might have up their sleeve for all of us.

And this on FB posts on Manchester march:
Did US FB ban posts on ACA protests?

Local groups are still posting, so hope it's just a blip.

£1.54m on Private Finance Initiative (PFI) contracts, up 387%.

This one I find intriguing , £1.54m doesn't actually sound a lot in the scheme of things , the up 387% does , is my eyesight failing , should there be a . between the 8 and the 7 ? Who are the contracts with and for what ? And why such a massive jump ? Anyone ?

I'd been surprised at the butter price rise recently too. I'm sure I could get it for under £1 last year. Now even the cheap shops are £1.30. And it's British, not imported. So why?
Maybe this article has some truth. Rising demand and decline in milk production...

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/8550f05a-6649-11e7-8526-7b38dcaef614

Yes, I understood the leap in butter prices aren't to do with brexit. Hester

Evidently the US is going to be hugely helpful to us post-Brexit. (sarcasm emoticon)
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41397181

Downing Street has been preparing the ground in case Boris Johnson suddenly resigns.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/tory-whips-preparing-for-snap-boris-johnson-resignation-k92v79knp

Tory MPs have been receiving calls from the whips’ office, which has been assessing support for the foreign secretary while canvassing views on the prime minister’s speech in Florence.
No 10 has been told that Mr Johnson has minimal support among MPs. Tories who backed Remain are generally unimpressed by his interventions but Leave supporters are among the angriest

(paywall) Boris Johnson hosts hard Brexit lobby group

< their real aim is to lower mandatory standards.
Fewer safety checks, to chlorinated chicken, hormone-dosed beef .... but for the plebs, definitely not in the HoC subsidised restaurants >

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/boris-johnson-hosts-hard-brexit-lobby-group-liam-fox-institute-for-free-trade-john-moynihan-daniel-hannan-ctbszhchz

Boris Johnson will host the launch of a think tank which is pushing for a hard Brexit at a Foreign Office event in the latest test of cabinet unity.

Liam Fox, the international trade secretary, will also speak at the launch of the Institute for Free Trade in the map room in the Foreign and Commonwealth Office this evening.
The reception will not be open to the media.

The think tank says it wants to change policy by calling for Britain to abandon European product standards, even though this could jeopardise a softer Brexit.

Mr Johnson’s decision to host the event comes days after the prime minister’s speech in Florence and threatens the fragile truce that has been called within cabinet over the government’s Brexit position.

The Institute for Free Trade is chaired by Jon Moynihan, a member of the board of the Vote Leave campaign, and led by Daniel Hannan, the Conservative MEP.
It wants to influence the final Brexit deal by approaching businesses and government ministers independently of the Department for International Trade.

Its website states that it wants to promote new trade networks “to make sure that they are contracted on the basis of mutual recognition rather than standardisation.”
It wants to work with ministers and businesses to dodge restrictions on negotiating deals before Britain withdraws from the EU in 2019.

Leave supporters are among the angriest
Yep, there's a meltdown in North threads. I don't understand their surprise.

BBC Breakfast have been doing something on changes regarding sugar sales/production and mentioned the 'milk flood' a while back - massive increase in production leading to dropping prices leading to dairy farmers going out of business. I wonder if the dairy increases are a natural fall out from that. Can't get behind the paywall for hesters link.

Leave supporters are among the angriest

I was reading the Telegraph letters yesterday - it's good to see what people who think the opposite of you are saying. They too are angry about Brexit, but not for the same reasons as me. The only thing we agreed with was that May was rubbish.