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Brexit

Westministers: May Shares the Cake

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RedToothBrush · 22/09/2017 15:08

May's Speech Abbreviated:

We still have nfi how we are going to do this. EU this is your fault. You sort it out. We are too lazy, workshy and fighting like high school children to work it out ourselves. Be our whipping boy.

I support democracy as long as I get to do whatever I like
I support human rights as long as I can ignore them when I like.
I support the rule of law except when it doesn't suit my agenda.

Waffle waffle.

"Creative", "Dynamic" PR for my Premiership.

Waffle waffle

We really need policing cooperation, PLEASE keep it with us. I know I threatened to withdraw this, but I'm sorry, I was wrong and a bit of a dick about this.

Gets to the point FINALLY.

"2 year transition period"

(With another time bomb lock which is still too short for IT departments. Nothing to do with the next general election, honest).

RULE BRITANNIA!

Polite Applause.

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TheElementsSong · 26/09/2017 19:44

twitter.com/IanDunt/status/912686800325496832

New edition of Which? shows where Brexit price rises are hitting UK consumers - cars, cereal, butter,coffee, jam, wine, laptops, holidays...

HashiAsLarry · 26/09/2017 19:49

Oddly enough I picked up butter in Aldi for the first time in about 3 months and noticed the price had increased by around 30p. Which is a lot for Aldi.

TheElementsSong · 26/09/2017 19:50

Yes, I think it's up to £1.33 now? That's hardly less than Waitrose butter.

Cherrypi · 26/09/2017 19:51

I put an Asda order from January in my trolley and it was £20 more expensive at £80!

SwedishEdith · 26/09/2017 19:56

So question...
You all seem really level headed. How do you manage your frustration and well.....anger.

I don't at home. Lots of furious ranting at the tv and getting annoyed at my partner as he's not as furious as I think he should be - not his style At work I seem calm-ish but not with Remain friends. I still don't think they really have a clue though. Work is very directly affected by Brexit and, fortunately, I don't really know anyone who is Leave there - that helps.

Anyway, I saw an old man today with a 'Don't blame me, I voted Remain' t-shirt on. Smile. And I want to go to Manchester to see gorgeous pouting Mike but can't see my partner being up for it. Sad

RedToothBrush · 26/09/2017 20:20

jackofkent.com/2017/09/brexit-diary-what-does-donald-tusk-mean-by-realism/
David Allen Green on Donald Tusk and his view of realism.

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BigChocFrenzy · 26/09/2017 20:33

The government is withholding information on how Brexit will affect food prices – raising fears of sharp rises and shortages – claims Unite

http://mobile.foodmanufacture.co.uk/Regulation/Food-price-rise-estimates-withheld-by-government

The Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA) withheld its estimates for food price rises in the run up to Brexit, and the first five years after the UK leaves the EU in April 2019, the union claimed.

Price rises would have “massive implications” for both consumers and workers in the food sector, according to Unite.

Unite national officer for food, drink and agriculture Julia Long said: “If the government knows that Brexit is going to affect food prices, then they need to tell the general public and not pretend that there isn’t a problem.

“The type of Brexit that the UK chooses will clearly have major implications on the nation’s shopping basket
and we need to know what those factors will be.”

The union asked the government in a Freedom of Information (FOI) request:
‘What assessment or estimate has been made of the increase in food prices in the run up to the UK leaving the EU and the first five years after the UK’s departure?’

DEFRA said the information was being withheld,
< so that May's govt can survive longer >

as it related to formulation and development of government policy Hmm
< development = demanding cake with increasing volume ? >

It recognised that there was a public interest in food price rises, but there was a strong public interest in withholding the information too, it said.

The union claimed it was told by DEFRA:

“At this early stage of the policy process, where the UK is formulating its negotiating position with the EU, a public authority needs a safe space to formulate policy effectively and to ensure the information it is preparing is timely and accurate.

“DEFRA’s EU exit policy development work is ongoing.
We consider that premature disclosure of information could seriously mislead the public and is not in the public interest.”
< well certainly not in the govt's interest - they might crash among a sea of rioters >

Holliewantstobehot · 26/09/2017 20:33

Oh my god I want that T-shirt. Although live in cornwall so possibly not too wise to wear it at the moment.

Article in the I paper today, can't find it on their website but it was saying that Germany's exports outstrip the UK despite the weak pound. Also a little piece at the end "over half of UK car exports were sold to the EU in 2016 and just under 15% to the US, underlining the importance of access to the European market".

Not much of a flounce if you've already planned to flounce. Just looks a bit childish really.

thecatfromjapan · 26/09/2017 20:34

Since "no Brexit" doesn't appear to be on the table, that's quite grim, surely?

"Realistic" also means "realising there are no good consequences of Brexit."

Am I being too pessimistic?

thecatfromjapan · 26/09/2017 20:35

That was in response to RTB 's post.

woman11017 · 26/09/2017 20:46

Yikes, Green is referencing Arendt.
Paraphrasing Hannah Arendt’s words: “a full understanding of all the consequences of the political process is the only way to reverse the irreversible flow of history”.

missmoon · 26/09/2017 20:52

This is being re-tweeted a lot, saying that Theresa May is planning to announce we are walking away from negotiations, not sure whether to believe it:

"Gathering flow of rumours May is going to trigger a walk out of Brexit negotiations as early as tomorrow. Single Market trigger in question."

twitter.com/j_amesp/status/912733485177155584

The Norths seem to be saying the same thing...

woman11017 · 26/09/2017 20:59

It's why North went bananas after her Florence speech. missmoon His thread reads like Nostradamus,

Was EU Tax Evasion Regulation The Reason For The Brexit Referendum?
www.thejist.co.uk/politics/uk/eu-tax-evasion-regulation-reason-brexit-referendum/

BigChocFrenzy · 26/09/2017 21:02

IDS: Brexit. Why the Government must prepare for no deal now

< ridiculously gung-ho, arrogant, ignorant and delusional about the strength of the UK. So, what you expect from IDS >

https://www.conservativehome.com/thecolumnists/2017/09/iain-duncan-smith-why-the-government-must-prepare-for-no-brexit-deal-now.html

the UK is the fourth largest economy in the world, with the third most potent armed forces and a global reach in terms of trade and cooperation that is second to none.

< Is IDS on glue ? We were the #5, but have slipped back since the EU ref to #6 or #7, behind France and - India claim - behind them too
and we haven't been the #3 military power for decades, maybe not since WW2 >

woman11017 · 26/09/2017 21:03

@PeteNorth303

  1. Every nation at some point has said to itself "it could never happen to us". Every nation has been proved wrong.

If anyone is feeling brave, have a peek at his one.^

missmoon · 26/09/2017 21:04

woman, thanks, yes, I saw that, scary!

thecatfromjapan · 26/09/2017 21:04

woman I think they are right that a strong motivation impelling the swivel-eyed right is a vision of the UK as a post-Brexit tax-haven. Cameron's idiocy just becomes clearer and clearer with time.

thecatfromjapan · 26/09/2017 21:06

IDS isn't speaking to us, though, is he? Ore reality, really. He's speaking to the people who just want to be fed reassuring lies so they can carry on in their happy, deluded ignorance.

woman11017 · 26/09/2017 21:07

Yike a doodle dandy.

mathanxiety · 26/09/2017 21:08

Wrt the 1975 vote in MO - SF then and SF now are two completely different entities. In 1975 the SDLP represented RC opinion in NI. Sinn Fein was a small Marxist Republican party that functioned in Ireland too, led by Ruairi O Bradaigh iirc. This party was the political arm of the 'Official IRA'. What is now SF, led by Gerry Adams, was back then the Provisional IRA (which had broken from the Official IRA). It eschewed political involvement. The nationalist vote was therefore left wing.

woman11017 · 26/09/2017 21:08

^ That's cos it's all looking very imminent. Nothing you didn't predict 12 months or more ago red.

BigChocFrenzy · 26/09/2017 21:12

UK exports

Westministers: May Shares the Cake
pointythings · 26/09/2017 21:21

We talk about Brexit a lot at work. Given that we work in health research and that a lot of our projects come with EU funding - and soon won't - it's inevitable.

Clearly Brexiteers don't want new treatments for mental illness and dementia.

TheElementsSong · 26/09/2017 21:27

Is IDS on glue ?

Nah, it's the special rarified atmosphere of the Sunlit Uplands. Which is possibly entirely nitrous oxide.

Bearbehind · 26/09/2017 21:29

TBH I think we're at the point where only walking away is going to make people wake up to reality.

Pride comes before a fall and all that.

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