Westminstenders: The Maddest of May and Boris's Dare

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Boris Johnson just dared May to fire him.

That's what his little rant about £350 million buses is.

Meanwhile its been pointed out that HMRC literally are incapable of handling a no deal and can only cope with an EEA / EFTA deal with no tariffs.

And given how good and on time the government are with computer systems even in a best case scenario are extremely unlikely to crack it in time.

Which makes Hammond's talk of a civil contingence plan, look, well half arsed and lacking.

We also wouldn't have planes able to fly to Europe under a no deal as we would no longer be part of Open Skies. This could leave thousands stranded. But no biggie there.

Meanwhile if the Leave Alliance have things right, May is about to serve our one year notice on leaving the EEA making all these things a reality.

Which is less like shooting yourself in the head and more like shooting yourself in the head, chest, foot, arm, leg and face (for a second time), whilst being run over at the same time.

But hey, Boris Johnson has it sussed in his 10 point plan. Especially the point where he says Brexit will be a success.

If you call success ending democracy, becoming a dictatorship, starving everyone, bankrupting the country and causing civil unrest.

Rule Britannia.

Wish I understood French and didn't have to go to translate , although now I also want to watch the film !

"“young people with the 12 stars lipsticked on their faces” are “beginning to have genuinely split allegiances"
What a pathetic hobnob BJ is. Truly.

Yeah , the least dunkable biscuit in the tin , immerse him in hot water and he just disintegrates and crumbles, ends ups as a soggy residue at the bottom of the cup .

“young people with the 12 stars lipsticked on their faces” are “beginning to have genuinely split allegiances"
However less than 2 years ago there were no allegiances to be split. His nonsence is forcing it.

Actually soggy biscuits is probably a thought that he wouldn't want to be reminded of

Kate Hoey @ katehoey
Does anyone else think that @BBCNewsnight and @EvanHD seem to delight in undermining our country in EU negotiations #embitteredremainers

Looks like Evan hit a nerve...

Looks like Evan hit a nerve
Hoey certainly has a nerve standing for labour, I wonder why her selection happened.

Tories 'sidelined Boris Johnson during election after secret poll revealed he was less popular than Theresa May
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Foreign Secretary distrusted by voters and damaged by association with bogus £350 million NHS claim, according to new book by campaign insider Nick Timothy

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-unpopular-voters-theresa-may-election-secret-poll-tories-conservatives-nick-timothy-a7953036.html

All good for Remain.

The obscure small print in Theresa May’s Repeal bill - and how it could scupper Brexit entirely

You’ve probably never heard of Article 127 of the EEA Treaty, and Brexiteers would probably rather it stayed that way.

But MPs have already started making noise about this, with Labour’s Heidi Alexander tabling an amendment to the bill to ensure that can’t happen.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/obscure-small-print-theresa-mays-11195168

a127 could do for brexit.

Or back in the land of reality Kate Hoey , journalists having the temerity to ask questions that the country needs answering , not to worry though poppet, I am sure you will be able to amend a few laws to stop this soon enough

Flipping heck , why of why do I keep thinking Kate is a Conservative

He basically said that BJ should have more influence in the Brexit negotiations because it was because of his sons campaigning that the Leave vote won.

The time for BJ to have stepped up to have influence was 24th June 2016. What did he do? Buzzed off to play cricket for the weekend.

Does anyone else think that @BBCNewsnight and @EvanHD seem to delight in undermining our country in EU negotiations #embitteredremainers

Makes a change from QT being a party political broadcast on behalf of UKIP and the Today programme giving Brexiters an easy ride.

Law and policy‏*@davidallengreen*
This is like blaming football commentators for Aston Villa's demise.

On Hoey's tweet:
@davidallengreen
This is like blaming football commentators for Aston Villa's demise.

A127 could do for Brexit, but who expects 6 Tory MPs to rebel to make it so? I expect a lot of noise from them, but when it comes down to it, Party will come before duty.

However, we will get Leavers on here asking us what it is about democracy we don't understand. I for one can remember no Referendum whatever on the EEA or EFTA - which we were part of prior to the EEC. In those days we expected our elected representatives to do the job we elected them for.

who expects 6 Tory MPs to rebel to make it so
Wonder if the DUPs will come through on time? If and when, gov falls, do they get their £!b bribe?

£1b bribe,

www.politico.eu/article/brexit-date-uk-law-does-not-include-an-exit-date/
UK’s Brexit law does not include an exit date
The curious omission may be an insurance policy, a power grab by the government or a mechanism to delay Brexit.

There is huge importance in this. Article explains why well.

I don't think A127 is any impediment once the Repel Bill is fully passed. Remember, the Minister can put through just about any legislation without Parliamentary scrutiny.

However, as it's not gone through all its readings yet, it does suggest that if May were to announce the UK's intention to withdraw from the EEA on Friday (as has been supposited), she would be acting without the proper authority getting ahead of herself.

Unfortunately, I think she would get it through Parliament : even if there are Tory rebels and I'm not holding my breath , they would be balanced by the eejits likes of Hoey

I agree prettybird. Maybe that's why May wants such sweeping powers -
someone's advised her that there are inevitably things which she will have missed, so they are an insurance policy for her.

Hoey, Skinner, Field would probably vote with the Tories. Skinner because he didn't agree with the EEC in the first place and this would be more like going back to that.

I never agreed with Skinner's politics but always thought he was a man of integrity, but throwing in his lot with the Tories!!

Unfortunately, both the UK and E27 are misreading each other to a considerable extent.
Barnier and the RoI seem very on the ball, but elsewhere .....

Many influential people in Germany

• whose influence Brexiters are heaily relying on for a deal -
  think the UK is bluffing and that Brexit will never happen

  ⁃ because they are too logical and assume no govt would be so irresponsible as to wreck the economy for internal party reasons

Anton Börner is president of the German federation of trade and services (BGA) and main voice of German exporters
In an interview to die Welt:

“Brexit is just talk so far. I doubt it will ever happen.

The markets are not expecting Brexit either.
Otherwise you would see the stock market crash through the floor or British interest rates would be exploding.

British financial markets are ticking along relatively well because investors assume that that Brexit is just political chatter rather than reality,”

The curious omission
Omission of date, is weaponising insecurity, which is one of their favourite strategies. Again, poor show to labour and remainer tories letting this bill pass, in current form. And especially poor show from ukip labour.

You're right, prettybird and peregrina it probably, will be passed and that there is no legislative accountability following repel bill anyway.

But the Poll Tax Act was passed.

brexit costs ^:

When the reality sinks in, on both sides, expect a massive crash and bitter recriminations

Woman that is so bang on that it should be printed and dropped from the sky, stuck on lamp posts, put through doors, on the side of buses etc etc so that everyone has to read it.

And fully understand just exactly what Brexit will bring to the UK.

The Govt thinks that the rest of the EU are bluffing. It's definitely a case of who blinks first. The German view, which maybe logical surprises me, because they know from their own history that civilised, cultured countries can do irrational and stupid things.

The Poll tax - yes, the one which scuppered the Tories for a generation in Scotland, who are only just beginning to claw their way back.

"The forecast health of the public finances were downgraded by... almost £300 million per week...as a direct result of the Brexit vote"

Don't know whether to laugh or cry...

I expect Leavers can erase this in one fell swoop, replacing it with rainbows and showers of gold, simply by saying it's Project Fear or Talking Britain Down.