Westminstenders: The wrong homework

[HashiAsLarry]

I'm no rtb but I'll give it a shot, though her efforts deserve much more than me.

The August negotiation round has, well, fizzled out in much the same way as any other. It's taken over a year to get to written position papers and there's still no clue as to a direction from the UK government.

Japan, meanwhile, is about to sign off on a deal with the EU. A deal we want to copy.

@faisalislam
^but if post brexit britain's trade deal with third biggest economy in world is to be based on Brussels' deal, what about rest? TTIP? Canada?
...when PM signs off statements like this on primacy of EU-third party deals, one wonders how temporary the temporary customs union will be^

The NHS is now launching a drive to recruit foreign GPs, like the ones that have left thanks to Brexit. It's a good job they'll be £350m a week better off now. Oh hang on...

My father has done a lot of stuff on a particular type of environmental regulation during his career. He used to advise business on this and helped shape industry standards. Most EU rules originate from the UK and UK standards in this area. He has helped shape personally and expand and improve standards in Europe and it has not been imposed on the UK from some foreign body.

I've lost count of the number of times where its been said that the UK will be free of EU regulation and will be able to use the UK's own environmental standards in this area.

Imagine having chucks of you career erased from history books as never having happened.

So I'm very familiar with the nonsense on a personal level. I try and avoid my Dad ranting at the tv when the environment and Gove crop up now! If you think I can rant, I have to say, I learned it from a professional.

Richard North btl comments:

" If our negotiators don't start working soon they are going to be overtaken by events and we slip into
an asset stripping Brexit."

"I suspect that for certain players this has always been the objective..."

Remind you of anyone?

I don't think this has been linked -
a Part 3 to why the Tory election went wrong, and how to fix it.

That ConHome article article states that a new party chairman is needed. I've seen today comments that what Mogg has been doing and his stated interests are very much in line with the role. He's definitely pitching for a promotion of some sort.

I must admit I find the point that outsourcing from ToryHQ proved to be ineffective and poor in nature given this is their entire model for running local government, health and every other public service really funny. Oh the irony of it.

Ditto comments about micro managing and over ruling and making a hash of things in this process.

Its almost as if the leadership are just crap at making decisions and managing things. Perhaps they just need to get rid of their leader.

Schools ABC‏*@Schools*_ABC

In @PrivateEyeNews - our fight continues until law to collect cob & nationality data from children is scrapped #BoycottSchoolCensus

YouGov‏ @YouGov
If you HAD to choose between Communism and Fascism, which would you choose?
Communism: 42%
Fascism: 10%

And the biggest Communists are......

2017 LIBERAL DEMOCRAT VOTERS!!!!!!

They also hate fascism most.

ABC1s like Communism more than C2DEs. They also like fascism more.

Who likes Fascism most?

Well of course its 2017 Tories. You expected different?

Otto English‏*@Otto*_English

Farage to give speech at far right AFD rally in Germany on invitation of Hitler’s finance minister's granddaughter

From the same man who brought you:

Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage
Cannot believe we're seeing Nazi salutes in 21st century America.
19:58 - 12 Aug 2017

Unless the tweet was approval for the Nazi salutes of course.

Isn't the point of fascism that one doesn't choose it? Overtly, anyway.

Speaking of which: ERG person on Channel 4 news: SuellaFernandes

'No deal is better than a bad deal'
KGM 'What is the ERG?'
'I'm not going to say how many ministers are in it?
KGM: 'Is it a secret society? We pay for it we should know who's in it?'
'Where can we see the list of members? Can I have the list?'

Quite pleased ERG is coming under the spotlight.

Sam Coates Times‏***@SamCoatesTimes*

ERG scrambling to defend themselves over leaked letter. Claim it's supportive of PM (it's not really as hinders her room for manoeuvre) and seeking to blame outside lobby group Change Britain. Now Change Britain did come up w/ idea but Suella distributed the letter to colleagues

Laura Kuenssberg‏**@bbclaurak**

2 of signatories to ERG letter have got junior govt jobs, even though demands go beyond current govt policy - awkward...
Technically, letter organised by campaign group Change Britain, not European Reform Group

Sam Coates Times‏***@SamCoatesTimes*

But sent round by the chair of the ERG, who is Philip Hammond's PPS

Sam Coates Times‏***@SamCoatesTimes*

Theresa May's spokeswoman confirms that the demands in the Tory Brexiteers ERG letter are not government policy

Laura Kuenssberg‏**@bbclaurak**

Suella Fernandes tells me she did circulate the letter but isn't signing it, insists it is completely supportive of govt policy

Also:

Andrea Leadsom MP‏*@andrealeadsom*
Colleagues across the House have asked for the second day of debate on Monday to be extended, I am pleased to be able to accommodate them

Popcorn?

I suppose if I had to choose I'd go communism. But I'd rather not have to! Neither fill me with overt joy.

All UK govts reveal the absolute minimum of info, but May is obsessively secretive even for a PM.
I think her original plan was to keep everything secret until right before Brexit.

Hence the UK govt - and press - fury that the EU scuppeed that, by publishing all their docs online.
However, the EU has been doing this for several years now, to keep the public informed.

May refuses invitation to address European parliament in public

< I think one reason is not wishing to be proved a fool in public, when MEPs raise inconvenient truths >

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/07/theresa-may-european-parliament-brussels-eu

Theresa May has caused further ill will in Brussels by rejecting an invitation to address the European parliament in public, EU sources have said, instead insisting she will only talk to its leaders behind closed doors.

The prime minister had been asked by the parliament’s president, Antonio Tajani, to speak to a full session of the chamber to explain her position on Brexit.

The parliament will have the power of veto over any withdrawal agreement struck between the UK and the EU.
< so no need to worry about offending them ? >

Ds is being told by his Modern Studies Higher teacher that he should watch Channel 4 News for relatively unbiased news and better investigative journalism.

Isn't it a shame that the BBC is no longer seen that way

Matthew Holehouse‏*@mattholehouse*
Davis confirms UK may need to take "formal steps" to exit EEA agreement. i.e A127. "We're looking at it just to make sure."
confirms position we revealed here:

mlexmarketinsight.com/insights-center/editors-picks/brexit/europe/brexit-ministers-letter-gives-boost-to-eu-single-market-campaigners

Flossie MacDoodle -‏*@flossymacdoodle*
I don't remember there being a #referendum on leaving the #eea

Nick Gutteridge‏*@nick*_gutteridge

Ooo er. That means another Brexit vote in Parliament. Just what Theresa May wants, I'm sure...

The aristocracy have been enjoying their wealth & privilege for several centuries.
The EU is an irrelevance to that
The EU has only a bare framework of rules and allows all kimds of democratic govts. So does the USA - there is a vast difference between liberal and redneck states

The Uk aristocracy will continue to profit from any organisation or trading arrangement that Britain has.
Once you are very wealthy, it is very easy to make more. And to keep it.

Lexiters, like many other Brits, suffer from the serious vice of blaming others for their problems
The UK's problems are mostly of its own making:

• The voters' choice to have low tax instead of better public services
• To recoil from IHT as a "death tax" (a name copied from the US GOP) and to let wealth accumulate down the generations of very wealthy
• To have a society grossly unequal in wealth and opportunity, in health and education.
• To join the USA in wars for oil & geopolitics, which create a huge mass of refugees and leave a chaotic vaccuum for terrorists
• To demonise scapegoats, like those on benefits / with several DC, the EU, immigrants both E27 and RoW
• To ignore the deep structural problems that the UK eceonomy has had for several decades (economists say since early 20th century)
• To concentrate on rentier / vulture capitalism and short-termism, instead of manufacturing or new tech ...

The EU is not stopping anyone adress these issue
Brexit will do bugger all to address any of it
So bugger all to help

Quick we have a new slogan.

Forget Strong and Stable. That's so May 2017.

September 2017 brings you Smooth and Orderly.

Sam Coates Times‏ @SamCoatesTimes
Theresa May makes her view on leaked ERG letter crystal clear

We all know what that means when it comes from the lips of Mrs May.

Can't fault Channel 4 news tonight prettybird, story on Irma devastated Caribbean islands. For the French ones, Macron had instated troops in advance to help with the clear up. Guess what May's done for the british ones? FA

Ended with Bob Marley and Redemption Song, no it's not really like the BBC.

The UK's problems are mostly of its own making
It's a sort of mindset, isn't it.
Waiting for some one to clear it up, and it's a special sort of entitlement unique to this island.

www.channel4.com/news/conservative-mp-suella-fernandes-warns-theresa-may-not-to-keep-britain-in-single-market

May refuses invitation to address European parliament in public

And because she is so wooden as a speaker. She won't be able to adopt the haranguing tone which she uses for PMQs.

So who are the members of the publicly funded European Research Group? How do we find out?

peregrina This letter last Novemberto Donald Tusk is from the ERG^
It lists "Officers European Research Group" and then "Named UK Parliamentarians" which is probably their membership in the HoC and HoL:

https://www.michaeltomlinson.org.uk/sites/www.michaeltomlinson.org.uk/files/2016-11/Letter%20to%20Donald%20Tusk_1.pdf

Yep Bigchoc that would be all the 2010 LibDem voters who didn't get that voting LibDem actually meant voting Conservative.
They voted for a mansion tax, abolition of student tuition fees, protection of public services and got Clegg / Cable expediency.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8619630.stm

Hard to know who to vote for when the outcome is a coalition of convenience - no wonder there is no real contest for Merkel when all her coalition partners, including Schultz and co, are equally tied to her record.

I watched a major part of the debate this afternoon too RTB. I have to say I feel DD purports himself very well. His willingness to look at other points and give time for the more 'troubling' parts of the bill bods well for the future of Brexit. Let's hope this follows through to the end product.

I watched a major part of the debate this afternoon too RTB. I have to say I feel DD purports himself very well. His willingness to look at other points and give time for the more 'troubling' parts of the bill bods well for the future of Brexit. Let's hope this follows through to the end product.