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Westminstenders: Boom. The Brexit Backlash starts to hit.

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RedToothBrush · 27/08/2017 00:49

So it turns out that immigration figures that stated students overstayed were wrong. The home office knew this. And sat on it. Since 2015. Under Theresa.

That smells a bit doesn't it?

Imagine it: "Let's do lunch Paul. I'll cover up and give you a nice immigration story for your front page. In return, crown me PM."

Then tonight BOOM. Labour look like they have made a move. Soft very swishy Brexit. Even less brexity than the Beano Brexit that the Tories have been trying to announce on the quiet over the summer whilst Brexiteers are on holiday.

amp.theguardian.com/global/2017/aug/26/labour-calls-for-lengthy-transitional-period-post-brexit
Labour makes dramatic shift on Brexit and single market
Party opens clear divide with Tories, with support for free movement and paying into EU budgets for up to four years

Labour is to announce a dramatic policy shift by backing continued membership of the EU single market beyond March 2019, when Britain leaves the EU, establishing a clear dividing line with the Tories on Brexit for the first time.

In a move that positions it decisively as the party of “soft Brexit”, Labour will support full participation in the single market and customs union during a lengthy “transitional period” that it believes could last between two and four years after the day of departure, it is to announce on Sunday.

This will mean that under a Labour government the UK would continue to abide by the EU’s free movement rules, accept the jurisdiction of the European court of justice on trade and economic issues, and pay into the EU budget for a period of years after Brexit, in the hope of lessening the shock of leaving to the UK economy. In a further move that will delight many pro-EU Labour backers, Jeremy Corbyn’s party will also leave open the option of the UK remaining a member of the customs union and single market for good, beyond the end of the transitional period.

Why would Labour suddenly do this? It's not just because of the youth vote. What about their leave voters?

Faisal Islam on the subject:
2. On Labour Leavers is very very interesting and involves quite the psephological judgement re the election....
...the calculation appears to be that Labour Leave voters had the chance to vote for Theresa May's brand of Brexit, and bar 5 seats, said No
Was that because Lableave voters were already signalled "hard Brexit"? Or many millions such voters much more concerned about other things?

Have Labour been polling their voters on this?

Theresa has also apparently set her sell by date: Friday 30th August 2019.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/theresa-sets-date-shell-quit-11061894.amp
Theresa May sets date she'll quit as Prime Minister - giving herself time to see Britain through Brexit

The longer the transition and the squishier it gets, the more the more you wonder.

Mr Barnier will enjoy his coffee and newspapers tomorrow as he prepares for round two of Brexit talks starting next week.

The question on his mind most: Will David Davis remember to bring his notes this time?

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ElenaGreco123 · 30/08/2017 19:43

We don't. That is why people are always catching up.

Thatssomecatchthatcatch22 · 30/08/2017 19:46

Many do though... I'm amazed how they get anything else done

Knope2020 · 30/08/2017 19:47

It's easy
I just sit in my pants and watch homes under the hammer
Grin
Setiouslt though...there are these thibgs called "Smart phones"
Amazing things
You can surf the net whilst doing other things
I know
Incredible is t it? 😂

Thatssomecatchthatcatch22 · 30/08/2017 19:48

Yes that's what I had assumed

pointythings · 30/08/2017 19:52

Some of us have this amazing thing called 'annual leave'. When we are on 'annual leave' and go out, we use this wonderful technology called 'WiFi' to keep in touch with things that interest us, When we are at work, we have these equally amazing things called 'lunch breaks' (unpaid) during which we can do the same. Look up 'retirement' too - it does happen to some people. I might be one of them one day. So many possibilities...

And we do a lot of catching up too. But nice try.

Knope2020 · 30/08/2017 19:52

😂😂

Knope2020 · 30/08/2017 19:53

What time is it in Moscow??
🤔😂

Thatssomecatchthatcatch22 · 30/08/2017 19:57

So, what did you get up to on holiday?
Well, I spent most of the day arguing for the revocation of Article 50.
That sounds ....er...lovely?

Thatssomecatchthatcatch22 · 30/08/2017 19:57

2am

Knope2020 · 30/08/2017 19:58

Fortunately being on this thread is not compulsory...

Thatssomecatchthatcatch22 · 30/08/2017 20:02

Some strangely spread long lunch breaks too

BiglyBadgers · 30/08/2017 20:02

It's not? Confused

BiglyBadgers · 30/08/2017 20:05

I'm unemployed and once dd goes back to school I will have 3 weeks of sitting in my pants watching Netflix before I become a student again. Oh, and spending my day arguing for the revocation of article 50 is absolutely my idea of a great time.

What's your excuse?

Thatssomecatchthatcatch22 · 30/08/2017 20:05
Wink
Knope2020 · 30/08/2017 20:05

Bigly 😂

Thatssomecatchthatcatch22 · 30/08/2017 20:08

I'm unemployed and once dd goes back to school I will have 3 weeks of sitting in my pants watching Netflix

...which is why I am totally in favour of unlimited numbers of migrant workers to get things done...

Yes I am beginning to be converted

Arborea · 30/08/2017 20:14

Quentin Summers It makes perfect sense. I have linked to these before, but think they bear repeating because the politics and social policy of care is fascinating imho...

Luke Clements has free resources which critique the 'New Right' ideology around care (ironically or not no are from the New Labour era, but the most recent administrations have been just as enthusiastic about the responsibilization of care) www.lukeclements.co.uk/resources/

And Mark Neary's blog is also essential reading markneary1dotcom1.wordpress.com

BiglyBadgers · 30/08/2017 20:15

3 weeks ago I worked for local government, where I was for over 10 years. My 2 months off is a break to cover summer holiday childcare before I go to uni to retrain as a mental health nurse. You see I am actually doing my bit to reduce the need for migrant workers.

Knope2020 · 30/08/2017 20:17

Don't waste your breath bigly

Thatssomecatchthatcatch22 · 30/08/2017 20:20

Good for you Bigly. I was really convinced you were Russell Brand from the way you were showcasing your erudition thread. Have you really got a beard? Do you really stroke it? I need to know.

RandomlyGenerated · 30/08/2017 20:25

Are you badger baiting? Smile

BiglyBadgers · 30/08/2017 20:26

Oh yes, I keep it on a hook by the door for special occasions. Doesn't everyone?

Mistigri · 30/08/2017 20:26

What do you do then, thatssomecatch?

Most of the posters on here come and go, as and when they have time to participate in the discussion. Many are quite open about what they do in RL.

My experience is that posters who suddenly arrive and post reams of stuff about brexit is that they are very shy about telling us what their job or educational background is.

Bigly didn't realise you were retraining - very good luck with your studies.

Knope2020 · 30/08/2017 20:27

Yes good luck bigly ☘

Thatssomecatchthatcatch22 · 30/08/2017 20:32

My experience is that posters who suddenly arrive and post reams of stuff about brexit is that they are very shy about telling us what their job or educational background is

I work in fintech in London. I have a BSc.

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