Westministenders: Transition

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Last thread opener, it was all about the government buzz word being shown to listen at every opportunity.

Now transition is creeping in as people realise that no we can't just do a settlement, arrange a new trade deal with the EU and have a whole host of other deals in place in two years.

Who'd have thought.

We will be getting Brexit because we give in to threats of terrorism. Not quite getting how that takes back control.

But Brexit will be good. It will be glorious. And in the long term we will be better off for it.

Er ok.

What! Where did FHM come from? That should have been NME interview. How strange, a wired 90s lad culture moment happened there.

Also an outrageous number of typos.

Holiday, Cailleach ?
If that holiday involves any flights - not just to the EU, but anywhere outside the UK - then the govt must first replace the flight agreements from which the UK is automatically withdrawing after Brexit.

Leary is an arsehole, but he does know the airline business and he says flights anywhere in / out of the U.K. will just stop after Brexit, until this is resolved.

Any promises that require any extra spending, or even maintaining current expenditure may become null and void post-Brexit.

As I've posted, Labour taking over soon after Brexit may find they get the blame for "messing up" the glorious Brexit that would have been.
Labour was hammered for many years because of the 1979s Winter of Discontent, then after the 2008 crash. As for Iraq ...

In contrast, the Tories failures were soon airbrushed away:

• the 1970s 3-day week
• the 1992 Black Wednesday crash with mortgage interest shooting up to 15% (bitter memory) and thousands of repossessions other party escape blame
• supporting every USA war for oil in the Middle East

1978/9 Winter of Discontent

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/27945cce-6bfb-11e7-91b4-8977b98727e9
Social care will ‘implode in months’ as charities face back-pay demand

Dozens of learning disability charities face insolvency within weeks after HM Revenue & Customs demanded six years of back pay for home helps.

About 178,000 people with learning difficulties may lose their assistance at home because of changes to pay rates for 24-hour care.

About 200 organisations including Mencap must find an extra £400 million for historical pay demands after the government changed the guidance on the minimum wage last autumn.

Charities have been desperately seeking meetings with ministers, warning that the sector will “implode in months”. But they say senior government officials have not found time in their diaries because they are distracted by Brexit and internal feuding.

Possible solution: build a facility in the U.K. and give it to the EU to do their inspections on UK soil

So "taking back control" requires we allow a foreign power to carry out their inspections on UK soil ?

Even if it was a serious possibility (which I doubt) we return to the central problem that it requires the political will from the EU. That's the EU that we said we wanted no part of.

2016 Remain warning: If we vote to leave the EU, the everyday business of parliament will grind to a halt as Brexit will consume all available resources.

2016 Leave flimflam: "Project fear"

2017 reality: government officials have not found time in their diaries because they are distracted by Brexit

Risks of UK recession 'are increasing', as Glaxo cuts 320 jobs

GSK is also outsourcing some manufacturing activity at its Worthing site in the UK.

And in another blow, the company is abandoning plans to build a biopharmaceutical facility in Ulverston, Cumbria, as it no longer needs the additional capacity.

www.theguardian.com/business/live/2017/jul/19/stock-markets-highs-investors-central-banks-construction-housing-oil-business-live?page=with:block-596f4dcbe4b0d3b5652c1147#block-596f4dcbe4b0d3b5652c1147

Laura Kuenssberg @ bbclaurak
Do they know what they are doing?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40655843
Three key concerns about Brexit talks

Abbreviated version:
1. There's a sense that the government has just not made enough of the big decisions to allow the talks to really get going.
2. There's concern the reticence is because Number 10, in particular, has just not made it clear what they actually want, and where the PM might be willing to compromise.
3. This lack of pace therefore makes, it's feared, the possibility of crashing out, or the talks breaking down in the autumn more likely.

Followed by these killer paragraphs

These concerns are not raised by sources because of pessimism about Brexit, or a desire for the whole thing to be stopped.

There is plenty of that around SW1, but this isn't it.

There are clearly massive opportunities for the UK outside the EU, and huge potential for a different and successful prognosis.

But inside government there are fears about the capability of the machine to manage the process without falling short.

The fact that the question of whether they know what they are doing is even being asked is the worrying aspect. It's something we've known for ages, but once again see it as the issue in the press, particularly on the BBC, makes it more significant and starting to get mainstream traction.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/18/david-davis-brexit-secretary
In David Davis, Britain has a schoolboy in charge of the moon landings

Article in a similar vein.

Oh and look. My pension age has gone up.

Faisal Islam @ FaisalIslam
Basically David Gauke has just announced that people born in the 1970s will now have to work a year longer to get state pension at 68

DH has already said he will never be able to retire. Meanwhile his parents swan off on £50k holidays and wonder why he is pissy about it. His career path is decent and not incomparable with his father's.

Laura Kuenssberg @ bbclaurak
This could be tricky... Welsh and Scottish govts have started 'formal dispute resolution' with govt over DUP deal

m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_596f5449e4b00db3d0f487b7?ncid=tweetlnkukhpmg00000001
Tory Minister Tobias Ellwood Goes Off-Script And Blames Brexit For Drop In EU Students

I would have imagined the pharmaceutical industry - along with nuclear industry - would act as a canary regarding Brexit.

They are both very heavily regulated industries, with byzantine layers of international reporting and compliance requirements, so very sensitive to any change to that framework.

Along with the finance sector.

Still, the crowdfund for my scales that weigh in chains seems to have taken off. Along with my post-Brexit design for a speedometer, calibrated in groats. And my measuring stick calibrated in bushels.

I've also started a celebrity calendar for Brexit. Since we won't care what the real year is, I've just reprinted some random years from 1750 to 1945 alternating with pictures of Gove, Farage and Johnson. That way it'll be easier to forget the NHS in the future.

And to respond to the Remainer who thought they were "being so clever" by suggesting 1750 was an arbitrary year to start at, I'll just say it would be ridiculous any other way. Idiot.

lh Yes, the EU would still have to agree to accept an EU customs facility on UK soil.
It's just that they don't have the UK urgency - OK, DD has no sense of urgency, or sense of any other kind - and the Uk can't wait ..

The EU might be more willing to agree to infrastructure / buildings funded & organized by the UK, on UK soil, buggering up UK motorways ...l
Rather than having all that crap - and the risk of chaos spreading - on their own territory

The EU might be more willing to agree to infrastructure / buildings funded & organized by the UK, on UK soil, buggering up UK motorways ...Rather than having all that crap - and the risk of chaos spreading - on their own territory

In the event of Brexit, I can foresee the UK building it, just for the EU to find excuses to not use it. Thus demonstrating that in 1,000 years of fighting every single combination of countries in Europe, England has learned nothing. It's almost as if people supporting Brexit for historical reasons actually know fuck all history.

It's almost as if people supporting Brexit for historical reasons actually know fuck all history.

I'm not convinced they even know much about the present, seeing as most of them seem to be under some illusion we still have a bloody empire.

Any David Mitchell fans ?

popped up via FB, recently ...

Wave goodbye to our finance sector everyone....

Morgan Stanley 'to create post-Brexit hub in Germany'
www.itv.com/news/2017-07-19/morgan-stanley-to-create-post-brexit-hub-in-germany/

David Mitchell and the Open University...two of my favourite things.

I suspect the implication that the employees could be relocated is agenda driven. The jobs will move, yes. But the people doing them ?

Unless and until we know what the deal is regarding FOM (or lack of it) I wouldn't offer any non-UK job to someone without a non UK-EU citizenship.

David Mitchell

Well, more Mr. Coren-Mitchell

I'm not convinced they even know much about the present, seeing as most of them seem to be under some illusion we still have a bloody empire.

Soooo....
Working til we are 68 (my dad died still working ft at 67)
And food shortages?
I'm looking into getting an allotment!