Westminstenders: The Brexit Apprentice

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Theresa May is increasing looking like she is running an episode of the Apprentice with two teams trying to compete in their plan for Brexit. Complete with the obligatory reprehensible contestants.

On one side we have Team Creationists intent on hard Brexit and on the other we have Team Sensibles desperate to get a softer deal.
May herself has been held hostage by seasoned expert negotiators the DUP. Once No 10 has reported the deal was done, only for the DUP to say it wasn’t. Then it said, it would be settled today. But the DUP disagreed and said ‘the weekend’. Now its 'next week'.

Meanwhile the Queen has been messed about with a scapegoat over when her Queen’s Speech will be. It’s likely to be a week on Monday.
Meanwhile the Brexit department is also in chaos.

The Number two in the department was sacked and replaced by a Remainer, and the number three quit amongst reports that he no longer thought Brexit was achievable and that there was no way that the Great Repeal Act could pass through the Lords. He has been replaced by the Head of the infamous Arch-Brexit Whatsapp group.

Oh and Gove got hired. Nuff said on that one.

After some slight back tracking from David Davis, Hard Brexit is still on in all its glory. Negotiations are going ahead next week. Well that’s what we are saying. The EU, on the other hand, don’t won’t to go ahead until we have an officially sworn in government. Which seems pretty fair enough.

Tune in to find out which Team wins this week’ The Brexit Apprentice

Theresa May's boastful 'bloody difficult woman' bit looks like a large pile of hubristic hooha in the face of Arlene Foster's obdurate performance.

Maybe send Arlene to Brussels?

Many thanks math for taking the time to have a pop at me.
Clearly the numerous other posters were not enough to sate your appetite.
I would hate to think that you missed out on a chance to extract your very own pound of flesh.

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Am sick of repeating myself now, but will once again repeat it nonetheless, I am not anti foreigner.

I badly tried to articulate something.

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NEW Robin Swann, Ulster Unionist Party leader, says the Prime Minister has promised to make the whole deal with the DUP public.

I am not sure what the source of this is.

BBC News anchor Martine Croxall (sp?) struggling to hold it together this evening & clearly affected by the coverage. It's bloody awful, all of it. So many utterly heartbreaking stories.

Even the BBC has changed too.
Leopards don't change their spots. BBC etc know well that they need audience if they want to to survive. It really is as simple as that.
I owe an apology sort of something to RTB, Peregrina and others on his thread: some months ago (feels like eternity), I used to think May is doing wise things, appointing Boris and Davis in Brexit ministries to drown the whole thing. You all tried to tell me she was incompetent and that was all there was to it. I have realised how absolutely childish and wrong my idea was. Been crying thinking of the 100+ unidentifiable human being who died right before our eyes.

As awful awful awful Grenfell is. It makes my weeping heart smile for the love and care our multi cultural society can be. Black White Arabic African Christian Muslim Sikh. I love how the community has joined together

Tom Peck‏*@tompeck*

The Times says the "fire resistant" panels cost £24. The flammable £22. Making the building non-flammable would have cost £5K more. Stunned.

According to a resident who escaped but was very traumatised, quite a few lives were saved by the Muslim boys returning from the mosques after the late prayers.
Feel bad for Sadiq Khan. I think BoJo won't dare to get out in public for a long time now.

I was watching Croxall thinking how lucky I am to be able to turn the TV and take a moment when the horror of the fire becomes overwhelming, but rolling news means some journalists cannot step away. I don't in any way mean it is comparable to what the affected families have suffered, but PTSD is not uncommon in first responders. You have to wonder about the impact on journalists and the support services and volunteers trying to report on this/support the families. Its just heartbreaking.

Returning to Brexit ...

Seems maybe Donald Trump won't be quite the support May thought he would, handholding aside ...

www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/26/eus-donald-tusk-says-trump-agrees-brexit-is-an-incident-not-a-trend

Woman Your post at 21:51 re the BBC article "London Fire:The Working Class Aren't Being Listened To" and the BBC's tone changing...I was struck last night by a massive shift in tone on Newsnight. Inequality and race & class prejudice front and centre as contributory factors.

I have been ignoring my true red roots for a while. Ignoring my Corbynite son. But the election and Grenfell have pushed me further to the left than I have been in years...or maybe I've just woken up from my cosy existence as I've been so so selfish.

We can not allow the poor and vulnerable to be treated like this anymore. What kind of society does that make us. What kind of member of society does that make me if I just accept it?

I thwink BoJo won't dare to get out in public for a long time now.

Yep. PM dream is over. Khan is getting it in the neck for Boris' failings.

Particularly after the 'get stuffed' comment, have people here seen it? Footage of Boris telling Labour politician to get stuffed when he questioned the major fire service cuts.

I am not 'having a pop at you'.

You put forth a comment on a public forum that was based on prejudice, and the anecdotes of friends that you have apparently not examined very closely. I am correcting errors in your assumptions and attempting to defend people whose suitability to work in construction in the UK you scorned and who were (in your mind) partly responsible for the fire at Grenfell Tower.

This is what you posted:
"It's what happens when you cut corners with your construction crews as well as materials etc.

Mass amounts of cheap, imported, ready trained labour who have been trained to lower standards than in Britain & throw in communications issues wrt language barriers.
Add in unscrupulous cost cutting on standards of materials used, poor checks & balances & wholly removed management focussed on profit & quantity over quality.

All part of the Human Factors & Maintenance Error chain which leads to failings."

'Lower standards of training' has already been exposed as a piece of codswallop. Overseas technical/vocational ed and apprentice systems tend to be superior to what is available in Britain.

Your assumption that there might be a language barrier between white collar and blue collar employees on a job site speaks volumes.

Your choice of the term 'Mass amounts' suggests that Farage poster.

If you don't mean to say that foreign labour was partly responsible for this disaster, then don't say that foreign labour was partly responsible for this disaster.

I have been ignoring my true red roots for a while

You know, I think you may have noticed something ....

I wonder if some of Labours resurgence is due to old farts like me being reminded in the 201xs of how things were in the 1980s ????

Which, if true, is bad news for the Tories ... a complete reversal of their core demographic.

I wonder if it's more generational than geographic ?

Agree math
Disgusting post from charmageddon
And now bleating that's she's been called our...
I'm sensing pattern

red I have rarely been so shocked:

'the "fire resistant" panels cost £24. The flammable £22.
Making the building non-flammable would have cost £5K more'

A total of maybe 200 dead and seriously injured could have been avoided, at a cost of £25 per person

Cost-cutting in action

Nancy How is a public servant allowed to make comments like that?

I think it was Red who posted from the Spectator earlier, thank you. It shows their arrogance so much - the "they hate us because of x,y,z" and there's venom on social media etc and their response isn't, how do we change, we need to improve things, no it's how do we improve the perception of us. I know I'm staggeringly naive to think politicians (particularly Tories) actually want to change, but even at a time when they're worried for the future of the party and their power they don't give a shit.

I think it might be more satisfying to see Boris denied the leadership altogether, rather than have it and lose it post-Brexit.

lurking I hope you are right. I have always been Labour but never Corbyn...flirted force few weeks with libdems but cane back before the election

Maybe us 40/50 year olds will swing further. I hope so

I don't imagine Boris will have the nerve to show his face in public anytime soon. Happy to let Sadiq Kahn take the flak of course.

In the same way that Trump is manifestly unfit to lead, Boris does not deserve a pop at leadership. I will never forget his opportunism around the Brexit campaign and how quickly he walked away from the NHS pledge. Slippery little shit. Same goes for Gove.

Disgusting post from charmageddon
And now bleating that's she's been called our...

Disgusting post?

'the "fire resistant" panels cost £24. The flammable £22.
That's austerity for you.