Westministenders: The Zombie PM

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Back from the dead, May carries on whilst the vultures circle.

She had tried to out smart her rivals by running of to the palace to tell the queen she could form a government before they could act.

Definitely she stood and pretended nothing had changed. Except everything had. The wrath of her party was unleashed and there was open revolt. She has been summoned to appear before men in grey suits tomorrow at 5pm to hear their verdict.

How do she decide to make amends and reach out to moderate Tories? By sleeping with the DUP. And appointing Gove to her Cabinet.

How long will this last? How long can it last?

There's a Referendum Commission to make sure lies are challenged and that equal media coverage is given to both arguments.

Well when England loses their next football match 2-1 let's just say they won really because the scores were so close you can't really call it a fair result. Pffffft!

Ah the bad analogies abound.
You can't claim that because there are rules regarding what constitutes a win, also what constitutes a win in certain competitions and when they're just friendlies. Even FIFA have more of an idea on how to run things than Cameron.

I read on the BBC news this: One of the reasons for the delay is also believed to be because the speech has to be written on goat's skin parchment paper, which takes a few days to dry - and the Tory negotiations with the DUP mean it cannot be ready in time.

I think the delay is not because they don't have the vellum available but because there is no speech ready to be written and it needs to be written in advance to give it time to dry.

"We understand one of the reasons given for the Queen's Speech being delayed is that it has to be written on goat-skin - and that takes a week to process, because it has to be hung up to dry."

WTAF?
I thought going after the DUP was as batshit as British politics can get but I was wrong.

Goat skin, really?

Does anyone remember this video that circulated a year ago just before the ref?

Fuck you European Union

Thanks for another thread, red and it's already 200+ posts !

Sorry to hear it Sostenuto, I'll PM you and put you in touch with a friend of mine who has successfully migrated from DLA to PIP.

The problem is that hard Brexit, whoever is in power, will lead to further austerity, and to avoid further cuts to benefits and public services we need to keep the economy ticking over - which means soft or no Brexit.

Ideally I'd like to see a soft (no) Brexit organised by a Labour government, which overturns the Tory attack on the human rights of the sick and disabled, and changes the entire ESA/PIP assessment system. In addition to keeping us signed up to the EU disability programmes.

hashi

Sostenueto . Really hoping your DLA comes through.

Rather than that divisive referendum, DLA and PIPs, NHS, social services, housing, policing, education costs and schools should have been sorted and funded.

Issues that have been resolved by subsequent changes of public mood and legislation:
slavery, suffrage, homosexuality, race relations, disability rights, gender equality.

A functioning democracy is flexible and acts to serve the best interests of all of its citizens.

Minds change, circumstances change. The legitimacy of any decision made with vested interests funding that decision is not very democratic in the first place. Especially if the political party which filtered some of that funding, the DUP, is then part of a power deal with the minority government.

Bottom line is, Brexit will require more than a magic money tree to fund, we've already lost the cost of 2/3 annual hospital budgets on this stupid election.

A crashed economy and £100b bill will cost us all more than we can imagine.

I can report from Germany that Britain has become a laughing stock
We used to have a reputation for being eccentric, but solidly reliable in a crisis.
That respect has gone now.
Thank you, Cameron and May

It is quite true that a reputation that takes many years to build can be ruined very quickly

The few AfD supporters (Germany's UKIP, polling about 8%) who show their faces were reduced to saying "well of course Germany wouldn't leave like Brexit. We're not such idiots !"

So, the UK is helping EU unity - in laughter and as a horrible warning.

Thank you Tatiana, every day is such a worry. Xx. My dd is also holding her breathe , single mum, minimum wage, zero contract hours, community carer living in private accommodation, can't get local housing even though born in town, all wages goes on rent and council tax, relies on working tax credit which she will lose soon. Loads in same situation all over the country, but we are forgotten really and the poor suffer the most. Wish something could be done. (Sigh) now going to give myself a big kick up the rear for being so pathetic.

Thank you everyone for your kind words. Xxxx

Sostenuto you're in NO way being pathetic. Just keeping your head above water is a frightening and suffocating way to live.

I'd stand up and scream at the mess this country is in ( if I could stand up lol!)

Interesting analysis of the voting trends and differences found this GE, as in the EU Ref:

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/11/new-electoral-map-for-britain-revenge-of-remainers-to-upending-class-politics

"with May’s Conservatives gaining ground in areas where voters with few qualifications congregate, while falling completely flat in graduate-heavy seats.

The education divide reflects major differences in identity, values and outlook between more socially conservative and nationalistic school-leavers and more liberal and cosmopolitan graduates.

Similar deep divides were visible in recent elections in Austria, France, the Netherlands and the US.

The clash between graduates and school-leavers looks set to be a central part of democratic political competition both here and elsewhere in the future."

"Britain’s class politics has been turned completely upside down in 2017.
Wealthy professionals in leafy suburbs have swung behind a Labour leader who pledges to sharply increase their taxes,
while it was struggling blue-collar workers in deprived and declining seats who were most attracted by the party of austerity cuts to public services and welfare."

< Both theoretically voting against their personal financial interests, but something that the poorer voters can least afford to do - nationalism trumps all ? >

Tea and a slice of cake time, my dds have resolved their issues laying bricks by a united consensus that a break is the best option after all! (I've got them trained well!). Peace to you all xx

Loads in same situation all over the country, but we are forgotten really and the poor suffer the most That's the truth. to you and your DD. Hope Tatiana's link brings good news.

BigChoc Alisdair Campbell called it : "A first world failed state."

It is good news that Britain's such an appalling example of what happens when extreme right gets a taste of power, is holding back the AFD. FN are also doing badly in France. At least Britain's tragedy/ fuckwittery is bringing some benefit.

sostenueto
In one of the richest countries in the world, there shouldn't be so many like you, struggling to keep heads above water

Tea and a slice of cake time, my dds have resolved their issues laying bricks by a united consensus that a break is the best option after all

Enjoy!

The problem is that hard Brexit, whoever is in power, will lead to further austerity, and to avoid further cuts to benefits and public services we need to keep the economy ticking over - which means soft or no Brexit.

Worth noting that Labour did not pledge to reverse austerity in their manifesto. The institute of fiscal studies picked up on this, and stated that the poorest / most vulnerable in society were most affected and not helped by Labour. This is somewhat perverse considering all the election campaigning and selling of a vision of Britain that is compassionate and looks after its own.

The LDs did. The Institute for Fiscal Studies rated them best for those at the very bottom economically. Very few picked up on this.

It highlights there is still a lack of critical thinking going on and style over substance that Corbyn is supposed to mark a break from and how good his team have been at propaganda.

Also see the lack of journalist comment about the economic black hole that Brexit creates.

Labour have the high moral grown and promoted the idea that their manifesto was fully costed when the Conservative's wasn't. The number of people who repeat this blindly troubles me. If it doesn't cover the black hole that Brexit creates, its in denial about the effects of Brexit.

This spells trouble if Labour do get into power.

There is a bubble that will burst if Labour end up in government and pursue Brexit.

There IS no such thing as a 'good brexit'. Labour are as much in denial about this as the Conservatives are.

The problem is that hard Brexit, whoever is in power, will lead to further austerity, and to avoid further cuts to benefits and public services we need to keep the economy ticking over - which means soft or no Brexit.

Yep. For anyone at all reliant on the NHS, Brexit is insanity. From both a funding and a staffing perspective, as if we didn't have enough problems with both already.

Enjoy your cake sostenueto and fingers crossed the PIP is sorted in your favour. Don't let the fuckers grind you down!

Der Spiegel, like much of the media, was impressed by Corbyn and his policies:
(English language)
www.spiegel.de/international/europe/one-man-against-them-all-jeremy-corbyn-s-labour-sensation-a-1151535.html

Does he really call himself Monsieur Zen?

"BBC is now reporting that Queen's speech has been delayed because of problem with accessing goat skin vellum on which to write it"

So if May had won by a landslide the Queen's speech would have been delayed because there still would have been a lack of goats?

Yeah ok. We are expected to believe this shit? Do they think we are all that gullible. Its 'the Dog Ate My Queen's Speech' excuse.

Even if we do believe if, we then have to accept that the previous government before the election was so shit and disorganised that it forgot to order the goat skin for the crucial task of writing the Queen's Speech on it.

Or that they were so bloody arrogant and convinced that they were going to win the election, they had already used the one they had ordered and written it up before the results were in.

I'm not sure what's worse.

Interesting article in the Herald giving insight as to what it was like working for TM and her advisors.

www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/15341429.Marianne_Taylor__My_time_spent_defending_the_indefensible_for_Theresa_May_and_her_two_advisors/#comments-anchor

Its not just for those who are reliant on austerity or benefit that Brexit is a disaster.
Its true for everyine because the british economy is fully dependant on consumer spending.
When people stop spending, the economy struggles.
And real wages have actually gone down since 2008 (never ever seen before btw) so even wo brexit, and thanks to all the austerity measures from the Conservatives, we have an economy that is struggling (as shown by how low our GPD has been).

Adding brexit, let alone a hard brexit, on the top was a crazy crazy decision.
Which is also why measures like the ones JC is advising is even more important. Its not about free money. Its about also protecting the economy and giving it a boost at a time when it really really needs it (because there was no give to cope with the struggles of brexit in the first place)