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Westministenders: The Zombie PM

999 replies

RedToothBrush · 11/06/2017 22:19

Back from the dead, May carries on whilst the vultures circle.

She had tried to out smart her rivals by running of to the palace to tell the queen she could form a government before they could act.

Definitely she stood and pretended nothing had changed. Except everything had. The wrath of her party was unleashed and there was open revolt. She has been summoned to appear before men in grey suits tomorrow at 5pm to hear their verdict.

How do she decide to make amends and reach out to moderate Tories? By sleeping with the DUP. And appointing Gove to her Cabinet.

How long will this last? How long can it last?

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illegitimateMortificadospawn · 13/06/2017 20:55

Jeremy Corbyn To Tour 60 Tory Marginals As He Keeps Labour On ‘General Election Footing'

Smart move with this shower of shit in progress.

Had a conversation with v left wing Labour supporting friend at the weekend where she bemoaned people wanting the party to adopt a more centrist approach & why don't they vote for a different party with centrist views (eg LDs). I pointed out that FPTP forces people to vote tactically, rather than for the party that best matches their views. We need to get rid of FPTP.

squoosh · 13/06/2017 20:58

just in case we have to start heavily relying on Asia after brexit im trying out some Chinese wine. Is it me? Am I the extreme lib dem?

Typical metropolitan elite! All you have to worry about is wine and caviar. You don't know you're bloody born. It will be home brew and cod roe for you from now on.

(What is the Chinese wine like? Have never seen any.)

woman12345 · 13/06/2017 20:59

omnishambles I hope it is as innocent as that. Without doubt May is clueless but the others aren't.

BigChocFrenzy · 13/06/2017 21:00

To prepare Westministenders if May visits Germany:

sie lügt

(btw, that is an "umlaut" above the "u"; your screen isn't dirty - ok it may be dirty too )

everthibkyouvebeenconned · 13/06/2017 21:01

DUP must be asking for upfront proof for deal....they know the deal won't last long. Rumour has it they like a bit of untraceable cash. She does know she will have to tell everyone the deal doesn't she?

Never put a head girl in charge of dealing with the school bullies

BigChocFrenzy · 13/06/2017 21:02

That's German for "she's lying"

woman12345 · 13/06/2017 21:02

Danke große schokoladenrausch Grin

BigChocFrenzy · 13/06/2017 21:03

If she visits a city near me, I'll be the shortarse with the sign

RedToothBrush · 13/06/2017 21:03

#ExtremeLibDems

That's priceless.

Do I get points for knowing one who is a Geography Teacher?

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BigChocFrenzy · 13/06/2017 21:03

The head girl is trying to score coke. It's not going well

squoosh · 13/06/2017 21:04

Wales and Scotland will be ready to pounce if it emerges that NI is being richly financially rewarded for this. Or should I say if half of NI is being rewarded.

flippinada · 13/06/2017 21:04

I'm rather tickled by the concept of an extreme lib dem. Is there such a thing? I imagine them standing hands on hips and abjuring everyone to be MORE SENSIBLE PLEASE in a carrying - but not too loud - voice.

Rather an extreme lib dem than a rabid right winger though.

Regarding Gove and his Aberdonian roots, some interesting stuff on Wikipedia. Apparently his family were solid Labour and he went on strike as a young journalist. Then he fell in with Rupert Murdoch.

He also thinks his former employer is one of the most impressive and significant figures of the last 50 years. That's on him though, not Aberdeen.

Agree that there's always been a Tory element in Scotland, much as some folk would prefer not.

HashiAsLarry · 13/06/2017 21:06

I know squoosh Blush I wish at least!
This is a Cabernet Sauvignon. It's not the best I've had, but not the worst either. Probably not representative of China's wine making ability!
I've also been given a Japanese white to try. I have more hope for that. But not tonight. Mixing red and white is probably extreme. Especially for a lib dem Grin

flippinada · 13/06/2017 21:07

I remember that the late Donald Dewar rather scathingly referred to the SNP as 'tartan tories'. I wonder what he'd make of the current situation.

BestIsWest · 13/06/2017 21:10

Wales and Scotland will be ready to pounce if it emerges that NI is being richly financially rewarded for this. Or should I say if half of NI is being rewarded.

You bet, especially those Scottish Tories. I've heard lots of chuntering here in Wales but most of us vote Labour so she won't care about us.

squoosh · 13/06/2017 21:10

Mixing red and white is probably extreme. Especially for a lib dem

😄

Especially on a Tues. That's Keith Richards territory.

NancyWake · 13/06/2017 21:13

OMFG. Its not an omnishambles. Its a cluster fucking ginormous thunder cunting omnishambles

Ominshambles slash constitutional crisis.

RedToothBrush · 13/06/2017 21:14

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservatives-dup-talks-david-trimble-sinn-fein-funding-cuts-arlene-foster-critics-grow-up-theresa-a7787441.html
Tory-DUP talks: David Trimble says critics should ‘grow up’ and accept Sinn Fein funding cut demands
The Former Northern Ireland First Minister says the DUP's controversial proposals are simply about 'bringing the law into line'

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RedToothBrush · 13/06/2017 21:17

www.ft.com/content/ad75838c-5011-11e7-a1f2-db19572361bb
Sleepwalking towards a chaotic Brexit
The likelihood that there will be no deal is now even higher than before the election

There is no reason to expect trade in goods and services or aviation to flow, let alone smoothly, after such a disorderly exit. Arranging post-exit trade will take co-operation and preparation. With “no deal”, the UK could not expect either from the EU, which will view it as an outlaw — a country that has repudiated its obligations. That, after all, is what “no deal” means.

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everthibkyouvebeenconned · 13/06/2017 21:17

Hardly the fucking time to stir the shit pot is it?

May you are about to blow it. Hopefully fingers crossed not literally in NI

NoahPinnyon · 13/06/2017 21:18

Just sneaking in to place mark ...

everthibkyouvebeenconned · 13/06/2017 21:20

Christ I am angry now
Destroy the UK
Threaten the union
Threaten peace in NI

I have never had much time for the Tory party (individual Tories is a very different matter) I now hope they finally fight to the death gladiator style

RedToothBrush · 13/06/2017 21:21

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/13/ukip-mep-resigns-amid-investigation-into-alleged-misuse-of-funds?CMP=share_btn_tw
Ukip MEP resigns amid investigation into alleged misuse of funds
Roger Helmer, known for controversial views on climate change, rape and homosexuality, will stand down in July

The Guardian has learnt that Helmer faces a bill close to £100,000 for illicitly employing a Ukip party worker, Paul Oakden, as his assistant. Oakden’s contract has already been suspended.

Hang on a second... wasn't Paul Nuttalls of the Ukips under investigation for the exact same thing?

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flippinada · 13/06/2017 21:25

I suspect I'm just chuntering on to myself over here about Scottish politics but if anyone is interested in the origin of 'tartan tories' this is a good explanation:

www.scotsman.com/news/snp-11-were-the-original-tartan-tories-1-3559644

BigChocFrenzy · 13/06/2017 21:26

(telegraph paywall) If Theresa May dilutes Brexit to please Labour, get set for another huge Tory civil war over Europe
< daft title because it's not Labour she's trying to please ; however he's a Tory Brexiter in panic mode >

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/13/theresa-may-dilutes-brexit-please-labour-may-spark-biggest-tory/

It would be difficult to imagine a more disastrous start to Britain’s negotiations to leave the European Union.
......
Today’s Telegraph splash will have sent a shiver down the spines of those Conservative MPs whose primary obsession in politics has been to extricate us from the EU Grin < good !>

An ungodly alliance of pro-Remain Conservative MPs
– including Cabinet ministers –
and Labour MPs seek to water down Mrs May’s previous commitments to a hard Brexit,

and to despatch her seemingly reckless (though as I have argued in the past, entirely sensible and necessary) Hmm < twat > threat to walk away from the negotiating table rather than accept a “bad deal”.

Labour, on the other hand, is more united than it has been at any time since Jeremy Corbyn became leader
and now has a ringside seat for the Great Conservative EU Implosion, part 22.

It is casually and confidently asserted that the recent election produced a House of Commons in which a majority of members oppose our leaving the EU altogether.**
This is probably true.

However a slight complicating factor is that both the Conservative and Labour manifestos commit any government led by them to leave, not just the EU, but the single market too.
It is, admittedly, less explicit in Labour’s

And while polls have consistently shown that those who want us to defy the referendum result and remain as EU members are now a fairly small proportion of the electorate,

how much of this shift was caused by the Prime Minister’s seeming unshakeable commitment to Brexit and the decisive votes in Parliament in favour of Article 50?

If the parliamentary arithmetic were to change, perhaps voters’ attitudes would follow.

This is the kind of scenario that keeps hard core Brexiteers awake at night, clutching their Union Jack pillows. Grin Grin

After a year of confident sailing towards their desired destination, their captain has been fatally weakened and the crew is poised to mutiny < shivering a timber near you, Theresa >

It is in Labour’s partisan interests to snatch the Leavers’ victory for from the jaws of victory.
To ensure a so-called “soft” Brexit
........
would not only enrage Tory Eurosceptics
but would almost certainly see a revival in the fortunes of the UK Independence Party (Ukip), whose threat to the Conservatives’ electoral base triggered the EU referendum in the first place.

Corbyn, who has long opposed the EU and was careful to ensure his true feelings emerged during the referendum campaign, would be disappointed by Britain transitioning to a relationship where Britain was forced to abide by single market rules over which it had no say.

But the flip side of that particular coin will be enough to satisfy him:

if “Brexit means Brexit” is transformed, via a cross-party alliance, into “Brexit means not very much change at all”,

then the ensuing Conservative civil war will not only provide top entertainment,

but would almost certainly make Jeremy Corbyn Prime Minister within two years.