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Westministenders: The Zombie PM

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RedToothBrush · 11/06/2017 22:19

Back from the dead, May carries on whilst the vultures circle.

She had tried to out smart her rivals by running of to the palace to tell the queen she could form a government before they could act.

Definitely she stood and pretended nothing had changed. Except everything had. The wrath of her party was unleashed and there was open revolt. She has been summoned to appear before men in grey suits tomorrow at 5pm to hear their verdict.

How do she decide to make amends and reach out to moderate Tories? By sleeping with the DUP. And appointing Gove to her Cabinet.

How long will this last? How long can it last?

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LurkingHusband · 12/06/2017 15:38

Bojo remains the bookies fav

Ah. Is that the bookies who cleaned up predicting a Tory majority towards 100 ?

Or different ones ?

RedToothBrush · 12/06/2017 15:39

Laura Kuenssberg‏*@bbclaurak*
My last piece of info on #goategate - speech is written onto vellum AFTER it's delivered, apparently, so not sure it quite explains holdup

The 'Dog Ate My Queen's Speech' excuse busted.

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RedToothBrush · 12/06/2017 15:40

This was doing the rounds pre election. Of course it runs against the narrative of Tories being safe hands and labour being negligent so...

That too.

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squoosh · 12/06/2017 15:40

Maybe they're searching for special scapegoat skin?

BigChocFrenzy · 12/06/2017 15:44

Constitutionally, only a new PM actually has to visit the Queen to inform her that he/she intends to form a govt.

Blair started the convention of seeing her after being reelected (courtesy / publicity hound ?) but before him if the PM hadn't changed then they didn't visit HM.

So, May was indulging in an empty gesture, part of her attempt to shore up her walking dead position.

LurkingHusband · 12/06/2017 15:44

squoosh

Maybe they're searching for special scapegoat skin?

GrinGrinGrin

I suspect that will make it's way onto The News Quiz/Mock The Week/HIGNFY

BigChocFrenzy · 12/06/2017 15:45

However, a PM is supposed to put together a Queen's speech PDQ after being elected or re-elected.
I suspect a Northern Irish screw has come loose from May's rickety chariot

BigChocFrenzy · 12/06/2017 15:46

squoosh GrinGrin < hands over thread prize >

TatianaLarina · 12/06/2017 15:47

Maybe they're searching for special scapegoat skin

Grin
HashiAsLarry · 12/06/2017 15:47

Squoosh 😂

woman12345 · 12/06/2017 15:47

special scapegoat skin

Hope you get a credit for that one on HIGNFY squoosh

I like the trajectory of that labour line on your graph hashi

howabout · 12/06/2017 15:49

hush these sort of stats are just a red rag to a Brexit supporter. EU nurses are proportionate to the UK resident EU population at 4%. The 2016 figure was an historic high and a result of policies pushing out UK nurses coupled with depressed economic conditions in Southern Europe. They also offset falling non-EU numbers as a result of increasingly discriminatory immigration policy. The roughly 1,000 figure should also be set in context against the 50,000 UK nurses in training figure which should be increased upwards. Would also be interested in looking at the number of UK nurses leaving the NHS as I suspect, as in teaching, this is a far more significant problem.

Austerity in the shape of the public sector pay cap is unsustainable.

woman12345 · 12/06/2017 15:51

And........the rally on Saturday against the DUP deal, was in fact very sunny, very lovely and very small, having been called at such short notice. However, it seemed to get an awful lot of media coverage, (BBC, front pages of all Sundays, New york times?) especially compared to the March 25th Better In march with so many thousands of people. There's a lot of difficulty with this DUP deal, and although businesses have been scared to speak out about hard brexit, I wonder if the DUP deal as well as the election result might be the 'in' a lot of remainers and anti tories in the establishment might have wanted.

LurkingHusband · 12/06/2017 15:52

More news to cheer up the Leave camp:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40248366

EU nurse applicants drop by 96% since Brexit vote

(cont)

Let's just hope the public - people who voted Leave in particular - don't start asking awkward questions about "how is this good for the NHS".

Especially if they start having operations delayed ...

Of course the Treeza plan was to be in power with a whopping majority today, so whatever news hit the headlines, she could just tell us to fuck off.

Whatever news ?

Oh, it's now starting to emerge that the UK was doing worse than expected before the election.

uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-economy-idUKKBN19022D

Does anyone remember Mrs Thatcher after the Brighton bomb:

I realised, that this was the day I was not supposed to see

Now we are seeing the news we weren't supposed to be able to do anything about after a Tory win.

It seems things have gang a-gley ...

RedToothBrush · 12/06/2017 15:52

Lying to the Monarch? Hmmm not sure.

I doubt it.

I think the Queen has to give her approval to the PM though and that the PM is her representative. In theory if May has to get permission to form a government that permission can also be removed.

And don't start with the Royal death stuff. Do not even think it!

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twofingerstoEverything · 12/06/2017 15:53

I haven't read the thread yet, but thanks again RTB.

I would just like to give a slow hand clap to all Brexit voters, David Cameron, Nigel Farage etc for this

woman12345 · 12/06/2017 15:53

...might have wanted, in order to put an end to this nonsense.

woman12345 · 12/06/2017 15:55

LH 96% Shock

HashiAsLarry · 12/06/2017 15:55

The union said it meant the NHS was 40,000 nurses short of what was needed
That's fine, we can just fast track those 50k nurses in training through. I doubt under trained medical professionals will cause any issues Wink

LurkingHusband · 12/06/2017 15:57

However, a PM is supposed to put together a Queen's speech PDQ after being elected or re-elected.

Because usually, it's just a retread of the manifesto.

If they tried that next Monday, they would be toast. There's no way the Scots Tories are going to swallow anything like the Brexit that was suggested.

This leads to an interesting political question about whatever the Queens Speech does say. How different would it be allowed to be from the Tory Manifesto before it becomes apparent it wasn't what the public voted on ? Plus the fact that the Lords will have a field day with any policies which weren't in the manifesto.

woman12345 · 12/06/2017 15:58

Nursing shortage is tuition fees' revenge. Free/cheapish to train in EU, not here. So no 'British' nurses.

HashiAsLarry · 12/06/2017 16:01

@haveigotnews
As EU threatens year-long delay to Brexit negotiations, UK says it should be plenty of time to get at least another 3 or 4 elections in.

RedToothBrush · 12/06/2017 16:01

Ciaran Jenkins‏**@C4Ciaran**
Scapegoats so far
Nick Timothy
Fiona Hill
Actual goat

Ciaran Jenkins‏**@C4Ciaran**
Sturgeon: 'look again' at Brexit
Davidson: 'look again' at Brexit
Sturgeon: and involve other parties
Davidson: and involve other parties

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RedToothBrush · 12/06/2017 16:06

Actual Parties in Westminster as opposed to the ones we think we have:

Brexiteers
Liberal Tories
Scottish Tories
DUP
LD
SNP
Blarites
Corbynites
Lexiteers
Greens
Plaid

It would be so much easier if this is what we actually had, and they then did deals that way.

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