Westministenders: Strong and Stable Theresa Date with Destiny

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Its just before 2.00am.

So far its the YouGov model all the way. Still a long way to go but, the Cons are not getting the top of their target list and Labour are doing very well in seats they just 'shouldn't be'.

Corbyn is now favourite to take the poison chalice of Brexit, but they may not be the largest party yet.

This is looking right now like 1974 not 1983.

May's potted regardless. I look forward to her resignation speech. Its still entirely possible that our next government is a Tory Minority under another leader.

The LDs are having a rough night so far. They are loosing deposits all over the place as they are squeezed out. But they still might hold the balance of power yet. Though they are pledged not to go into coalition.

Another election in the autumn? Brexit delayed and going soft and squishy?

I was joking...

I also Davis and Fallon.

What was the point. She's just going to ignore the result

I feel like we are slipping into House Of Cards for real ...

Perhaps that could be a cunning plan!

Amber Rudd as leader she's only one step up from Leadsom.

It will be some bullish male Brexit twit next.

OlennasWimple - and so you should!

How about Gove....that will work

Another cunning plan!

I feel irrationally sad that Nick Clegg lost his seat. I know the Tory coalition move was deeply unpopular but he always struck me as a decent man and a good parliamentarian.

Can't believe May want to align with the DUP.

I don't think someone from a highly marginal seat can be party leader and prospective PM

Does anyone think conservative members have that sort of support for May right now?

I'm in the same seat as Peregrina, and I got the distinct impression the Tories were short of activists yesterday, usually they ship them in from all the neighbouring safe seats. Gaps in telling rotas, hardly any canvassers spotted out and about; maybe they were all busy on the phones, or maybe they weren't inspired enough by May to make the extra effort?

You commented earlier about LDs losing deposits (we do it so well!) - but the party has been pretty brutal this time about abandoning seats where we have no hope of winning, and dispatching activists to the nearest target seat.

It's crossed my mind that the absence of the Conservative "big hitters" during the campaign wasn't do with May's campaign strategy but a conscious (or subconscious) desire to keep their hands clean distance from May.

The EU deemed Davis too thick for Brexit negotiations, didn't they even offer a reshuffle on their side to facilitate May getting rid of him?

I'd be surprised if the Tories thought he'd be a good idea in the circumstances, but ya never know.

Big why not? lol

If the Tories want political suicide I'm happy to give suggestions.

Personally I think for the country Ken would work...but it's party before country

On BBC2 Election 2017 a few minutes ago, after they'd finished a long interview with a Labour spokeswoman, the BBC presenter said something like:

"if you are wondering why we had someone from Labour on, but no one from the Conservatives would come on - we tried everyone: Boris Johnson, Philip Hammond, David Davies ... but all refused"

The Tory big beast have the shutters up, while they rethink their positions, in particular how they answer questions about Theresa May and how long she can hang on.

ever I meant the Tory Party wouldn't risk it !

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PM statement expresses sorrow for Tory MPs and ministers who lost their jobs - surprised she didn't acknowledge big turn out of young people

No because if she does that she acknowledges that she forgot them or deliberately threw them under the bus for her power because 'they don't Vote'.

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I suspect we've seen the end of the tabloids as arbiters of UK politics. Sun, Mail & Express threw all they had into backing May, & failed.'

Wouldn't it be great if John Simpson was right about this?

I would have loved to have been at Murdoch's election party...and see his arse hit the door on his huff out.

Bin them all. Trash myogsonist racist toilet paper

The BBC were quite scathing that the only 'senior' conservative they were able to dig up this morning was IDS. No one from cabinet or next tier down would turn up.

Re the TEF - it has been very controversial as it is designed to base fees on score and the academics I know are rather keener on education for its own sake. The view as I understand is that undermines research by requiring certain grades of staff to teach more and encourages spoon feeding of students.

I suspect we've seen the end of the tabloids as arbiters of UK politics.

Well, a question now has to be asked. If they can't swing an election - and you can hardly accuse them of playing softball - then what's the point of them ?

Certainly a question I would ask when someone suggests advertising in print media ????

I was rooting for Ken during the 2005 Tory leadership election, which Cameron won.
Ken came 5th in the MP's vote, mainly imo because he had never got friendly with those MPs who'd arrived since 1997 and of course the Brexiter wing hated him.

I don't think he's been any more involved with the parliamentary party - we saw almost no Tory followed him on the Brexit votes
Also, he is 76 now
So, his chance to be leader is long gone sadly.
However, he has the freedom to be a maverick and vote against the govt on Brexit

I would have paid good money to see that evil old scrote Murdoch have a tantrum

In the last Sun issue, I heard there were about 20 pages trashing Corbyn & his "terrorist" connections.
It would have reinforced those who would never have voted for him.

It also lost some former Labour voters, but that seems to have been outnumbered by the new ones that Milliband & co never reached

And Jerri Hall trying to calm him down...

I think the Corbyn vote shows that a) the Tories and hard Brexit were less popular than the polls had indicated and b) populism unicornland is in vogue and voters are falling for it left and right.