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Westministenders: The Election Car Crash

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RedToothBrush · 06/06/2017 15:42

I was thinking about how I could sum up the general election campaign and well. This said it all.

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IrenetheQuaint · 07/06/2017 21:57

"Simon Munzert‏*@simonsaysnothin*
We forecast a turnout rate of 59.9% [95% PI: 51.4–68.5%]. This would almost be an all-time low. #GE2017"

I'm really surprised by this, I thought that after Brexit and the various May/Corbyn dramas the turnout would be higher than 2015.

Badders123 · 07/06/2017 21:59

I'm not surprised
Lots of people who never normally voted voted in the EU ref

Good luck everyone.

See you on the other side

citroenpresse · 07/06/2017 21:59

If Yvette Cooper loses surely she'll be in Strictly this year.

BestIsWest · 07/06/2017 22:01

I'm just reading Inspector Wexford and he votes Lib Dem.

BestIsWest · 07/06/2017 22:02

Is it time to make voting compulsory?

RedToothBrush · 07/06/2017 22:02

Britain Elects‏*@britainelects*

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 42% (-)
LAB: 35% (-3)
LDEM: 10% (+1)
UKIP: 5% (+1)
GRN: 2% (-)

(via @YouGov)

YouGov more or less in line with everyone else....

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CivQueen · 07/06/2017 22:02

Hyacinth Bucket votes Tory.

Richard says he does, but he gets rebellious in the voting booth and votes Labour/Green depending on his mood.

CivQueen · 07/06/2017 22:03

Where's the boom?

Shamefuldodger · 07/06/2017 22:04

Aww dammit.

I was hoping for one last flash of hope before the end.

lalalonglegs · 07/06/2017 22:05

But... but... YouGov have been putting Lab/Con neck and neck for the past few days Confused. They really were trolling us Angry.

TheElementsSong · 07/06/2017 22:06

That YouGov poll is more believable than the others. So. That's it then.

RedToothBrush · 07/06/2017 22:06

Is it time to make voting compulsory?

My 91 year old Grandmother asked my Mum whether she would get in trouble with the police as she hadn't sent off her postal vote earlier this week.

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Eeeeeowwwfftz · 07/06/2017 22:08

Seems to be a slight LibDem bounce. Not sure why.

rollonthesummer · 07/06/2017 22:10

That final poll is so depressing. How can the Tory's election have been such a car crash with no costing, no manifesto and a leader who can't be arsed to turn up yet they will STILL easily win Confused

Eeeeeowwwfftz · 07/06/2017 22:13

Because Labour are shit with the economy and are terrorists.

RedToothBrush · 07/06/2017 22:14

Beth Rigby‏*@BethRigby*

So..... senior Tory tells me 70++ win will be a 'big' win & rumour has it that the bigger the win the bigger the reshuffle.....

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Killdora · 07/06/2017 22:15

Well, looking on the positive side.

Urm.....

No sorry all, I'm drawing a blank.

I guess if I was feeling cruel I could say we get to watch the Tory party slowly implode as the realities of brexit come home to roost.

Couldn't think of a nicer bunch of people to get shit on by the brexit bird Grin

(Not really a plus though, we will all be getting the backsplash)

lalalonglegs · 07/06/2017 22:16

if people were stupid enough to vote for Brexit, they're stupid enough to vote for uncosted manifestos presented by a leader who can't be arsed to turn up and clearly means them harm.

Shamefuldodger · 07/06/2017 22:18

A plus side is I'll probably actually send one of my books off to a publisher.

Better make my disabled ass some money Grin

LurkingHusband · 07/06/2017 22:18

I first voted in 1987 (too young in '83) ...

One thing I do remember was the palpable feeling I (naively) felt in 1992 that it was a cakewalk for Labour. I was in a pub in Harrow (my hometown) and everyone felt the same (so it wasn't just me). The pub had an extension, so I was walking home about 2am and all the other lategoers seemed as deflated as me.

In much the same way the MSM seem to be predicting a Conservative win at the moment ? .... (The vanity of experience over hope ?)

RedToothBrush · 07/06/2017 22:25

Lord Ashcroft‏*@LordAshcroft*

Majority probabilities according to the #AshcroftModel: turnout no higher than 2015 means better result for the Conservatives

(His graph is putting mid range point at 80 based on predicted turnout)

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GhostofFrankGrimes · 07/06/2017 22:26

Enough people seem to believe the bullshit that;

May will be a strong on Brexit talks.
There is no money to fund anything except Brexit
Corbyn, the vegetarian, allotment dweller is a threat to national security.

RedToothBrush · 07/06/2017 22:29

Well, looking on the positive side.

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CivQueen · 07/06/2017 22:31

I wonder if we could design an app that gives the 18-25 age range an electric shock every half an hour until they've 'checked in' at a polling booth?

I'm sure if we gave away free cookies with every download we might have a shot Grin

ElenaGreco123 · 07/06/2017 22:31

Marina Hyde sums it up for me:

For all his crowds now, however, it is notable that both Corbyn and May failed to meaningfully turn up for the EU referendum campaign last year, and saw the side that they nominally backed lose. To see them offered now as an either/or to the electorate is an unfortunate reminder that the cop-outs have inherited the Earth.

Post the referendum, Britain is a country in which families and friendships have been deeply affected by the divisions the vote exposed, making the current choice between two people perceived to have wimped out of the strife everyone else went through feel somewhat galling.

Sometimes we require our leaders to be rather better, rather bigger, than standing in an otherwise empty hangar and repeating emotionless soundbites to 100 of their own activists. Where was the vision, the leadership, the emotionally stirring warning that every ordinary civilian ought to prepare for a long and new kind of war against a complex enemy?

The challenge is to rise to these times. To have election coverage running in counterpoint to horrendous news of bodies being identified should have reminded us all that there are, ultimately, issues that transcend a prime minister’s preference for being hermetically sealed in a removal firm warehouse and twatting on about her strength. To persist with that smallness of approach in the face of such vast, epoch-defining horrors says rather more about you than you might otherwise have cared to reveal.