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What exactly is a "Soft Brexit"?

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optionalrationale · 25/05/2017 18:07

Isn't the notion of a "Soft Brexit" just a forlorn hope that "Brexit Somehow Means Remain"?

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Bearbehind · 26/05/2017 15:14

Sorry time I may have done you a disservice there Grin

I'm assuming all comments are sarcastic! Sorry!

CeciledeVolanges · 26/05/2017 15:20

Twofingers, I'm afraid I had lapsed into rhetorical questions/sarcasm by then.

CeciledeVolanges · 26/05/2017 15:22

Also I don't really understand the deliberate misspelling/nicknames for political leaders? If I started talking about Maize, Bowis and... I'm not sure what I would do with David Davis, but it just sounds odd. I actually don't get it. I thought it was just carelessness but you've carried on, so there must be some point?

Kaija · 26/05/2017 15:23

What is it you're having trouble with there, optional? To put it in even simpler terms, soft Brexit is a shit option compared to full EU membership, but it's a lot better than hard Brexit.

Bearbehind · 26/05/2017 15:27

I'm not sure how deliberate the misspelling is cecile; it's not long since the OP genuinely thought the LD leader was called Jimmy Fallon Hmm

Kaija · 26/05/2017 15:27

Cecile it's a habit much used by our previous resident 24 hour Brexit/Trump/Mail cheerleader. Seems to be a device intended to irritate and thereby keep up engagement.

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optionalrationale · 26/05/2017 15:29

Today 15:11 Bearbehind
Remainers have answered these questions countless times, which can be proven in any number of threads in this section.

Can you post a link to other threads where "Soft Brexit" has been clearly and specifically described? There have only been two attempts to answer the specific question here (both saying Soft Brexit = the Norway option).

I am glad you have accepted it (Soft Brexit - what ever it was / might have been) is not on offer. 100% agree.

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time4chocolate · 26/05/2017 15:31

Twofingers - i was being a bit sarcastic Blush and was trying to say how frustrating it is to give answers but no-one takes any notice or dismisses, as in a Leaver (me) discussing with a Remainer my views and why many of us don't bother anymore, it's bloody annoying.

It's been a hell of a week for everyone so here are Flowers back to you.

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optionalrationale · 26/05/2017 15:35

Today 15:27 Bearbehind
I'm not sure how deliberate the misspelling is cecile; it's not long since the OP genuinely thought the LD leader was called Jimmy Fallon hmm

Today 15:27 Kaija

Cecile it's a habit much used by our previous resident 24 hour Brexit/Trump/Mail cheerleader. Seems to be a device intended to irritate and thereby keep up engagement

BearBehind, Kaija, you might want to sit down when you read this. I did actually know the leader of the LibDems was not really Jimmy Fallon. I now know it is actually Timmy Farren.

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acquilegiannie · 26/05/2017 15:36

I am not in UK, so I am looking on from afar.

To my mind a soft Brexit is something that will not be countenanced. It would mean Free Movement and contributions to the EU. Neither of which are being countenanced (apart from the mandatory payments that are owed pre exit from the EU).

So now, we have soft Brexit - no. Why? because Free Movement is a prerequisite.

So what's left? Hard Brexit, on your own and make your own deals. I do realise that deals (trade) will have to be made with the EU. Both UK and the EU know this, but it will not be easy. Let's face it, the EU does not want the signal to go up to the other members that is OK to leave, you will be fine, we will do a great deal with you. Thanks.

I see a soft Brexit myself. Just because it is the handiest way around the mess. If that means free movement, so be it.

But what many forget is that Free Movement involves a country being able to deport those (from EU) who cannot support themselves after a certain period, or some such rule. Never invoked in UK, and it could be.

Immigration from outside the EU was always subject to visas and so on, so I really think immigration is a total red herring. So that's why I think it will be soft as a wheel of Brie.

Bearbehind · 26/05/2017 15:37

Lol- I was right the first time then time! Grin

time4chocolate · 26/05/2017 15:37

Bear - you were right first time Blush

time4chocolate · 26/05/2017 15:38

Grin Grin

Bearbehind · 26/05/2017 15:41

Lol! time

Bearbehind · 26/05/2017 15:45

You just don't get it do you OP?

There is no point in talking about soft Brexit- it's not on offer.

It is quite literally shit or bust now.

If you genuinely want to read what people thought previously just put 'soft Brexit' into the search bar on here and you get hundreds of quotes

You won, we lost, we all have to live with the shit storm you've unleashed- well done you.

twofingerstoEverything · 26/05/2017 15:47

Grin Grin
Maybe we all have sunstroke?

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optionalrationale · 26/05/2017 16:42

Today 15:36 acquilegiannie
To my mind a soft Brexit is something that will not be countenanced. It would mean Free Movement and contributions to the EU.

Agreed.

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optionalrationale · 26/05/2017 16:47

Today 15:45 Bearbehind
There is no point in talking about soft Brexit- it's not on offer.

Timmy is still talking about it.

If you genuinely want to read what people thought previously just put 'soft Brexit' into the search bar on here and you get hundreds of quotes

I am interested to hear what people think now... I do agree wih you that in reality there will be no such thing as Soft Brexit. But I wanted to hear from people who still hoping for a Soft Brexit outcome. I know that's not you. So there's no need for you to continue reading or commenting here.

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Figmentofmyimagination · 26/05/2017 16:49

you won we lost.

Actually we all lost.

Figmentofmyimagination · 26/05/2017 16:50

Well all except Robert Mercer and anyone else with the spare resources to buy up assets as the price falls and profit from confusion and uncertainty.

fakenamefornow · 26/05/2017 16:56

Soft Brexit means the Norway Option (Your quote)

Yes, yes, I can really see how that would go down well with the British electorate

People who voted Leave would have got absolutely 100% what they voted for, which was, the UK out of the EU, as you seem to need reminding. Norway is NOT in the EU.

Bearbehind · 26/05/2017 16:57

But I wanted to hear from people who still hoping for a Soft Brexit outcome.

Why? So you can go 'ner ner ner'?

What other possible reason do you have for saying that that proving you are nothing more than a goady fucker?

I know that's not you. So there's no need for you to continue reading or commenting here.

You're not the thread police- I'll post where I like thanks

acquilegiannie · 26/05/2017 17:14

Hard Brexit are on one side, slightly shitting themselves, but in the spirit of the Blitz, let's carry on regardless.

Soft Brexit are hoping it will turn out to be that, without too much hope.

Either way the UK is totally fucked. Especially now that we need allies all over the EU in the wake of the increasing terrorism threat.

But don't let that stop many of you jingoists out there. Course not. All will be fine.

fakenamefornow · 26/05/2017 17:21

My mum voted out, I told her yesterday she might not be able to play Euromillions after March 2019. She was most upset :)

acquilegiannie · 26/05/2017 17:34

fakenamefornow.

Thanks for reminding me. It's a humungous amount tonight in the Euromillions. Just played online there. Only do it when it's above 100million. It's going on a long time over 100m now. Feck it needs to be won soon!

It's just a bit of fun now and then. Not a chance of winning, well maybe a chink of a chance.... lol.