What exactly is a "Soft Brexit"?

[optionalrationale]

Isn't the notion of a "Soft Brexit" just a forlorn hope that "Brexit Somehow Means Remain"?

Yup

Today 13:49 squishysquirmy

Pre ref, I remember a few conversations (in real life, mumsnet, and on the radio) that went something like:

Brexiteer: "Leaving the EU doesn't have to affect trade - We could have a Norway style agreement."
Remainer: "But then we would still have to pay something into the EU, and would have to follow some of the regulations without any say on what those regulations were"
Brexiteer: "PROJECT FEAR!!!"

Not from me.

No, I don't remember any coherent conversations with you either.

Have you got a day off today by any chance OP?

Today 13:43 Kaija
Actually, that is exactly what you are doing. All of your arguments against soft Brexit precisely mirror Remainers' warnings pre-ref. And they were described as "project fear". What changed?

Not sure I follow your logic. I voted for Brexit. Nothing changed. I did not vote for a half in / half out compromise. If thats what you're proposing (is it???), you be clear on the merits.

Yeah, fuck those Eurocrats imposing their rules on us! Like equal work for equal pay, and statutory maternity funding. Those BASTARDS.....

Excellent deduction BearBehind...now are you willing or able to provide your own explanation of what joys a "Soft Brexit" would entail..?
No?

Still nothing?

OP, plenty of people have attempted to answer you and you've proved your intentions were as my first post by being a sacsrstic goady fucker.

People choosing not to answer you does not mean they are unwilling or unable to discuss the concept in general, it just means they are unwilling to waste their time discussing it with you- take the hint.

Squishy don't you need to get back to your rip-roaringly hilarious and oh-so-popular other thread where you are channelling your Brexit despair into poetry? You are so very coherent and persuasive in those...rhyming "Fox" with "cocks". WOW! Pure satirical and literary genius. So machooer.. If only we Leavers were 'alf as clever and ejukay'id as wot you Remain lot are. We might of been more persooasive in the Referendenum.

Wait.

I think you said it, optional... has anyone actually called you uneducated on this thread? And you telling us we are calling you uneducated is not quite the same thing.

Optional you may have been fighting your own little fight for extreme Brexit pre-ref, but that wasn't the dominant position of Leavers. Most were for having your cake and eating it, while deriding the exact position you are now holding as "project fear".

Nice to have you on our side.

Today 14:20 Bearbehind
People choosing not to answer you does not mean they are unwilling or unable to discuss the concept in general, it just means they are unwilling to waste their time discussing it with you- take the hint

So why do you keep coming back? Shouldn't you be "prepping" or summat?

What ever weasel words and excuses you hide behind, I still contend that you personally are either unwilling or unable to say specifically what a Soft Brexit would mean. So why the blummen eck do you keep coming back here?

I come back to prove your intentions are nothing more than the rile and provoke.

Today 14:33 Kaija
You may have been fighting your own little fight for extreme Brexit pre-ref
I don't support a half in half out option. Either we're in (a full member, paying our dues, complying with the regs, accepting the unlimited number of EU migrants, in the EU customs union) or we're out (none of the above)

but that wasn't the dominant position of Leavers.
I don't see any of them on this thread.

Most were for having your cake and eating it
Not me.

Nice to have you on our side
Excellent. By that I take you also accept "Soft Brexit" is a fantasy?

Today 14:42 Bearbehind
I come back to prove your intentions are nothing more than the rile and provoke

And to prove repeatedly that you can't or won't give a view on the topic...Fine by me.

I think you said it, optional... has anyone actually called you uneducated on this thread? And you telling us we are calling you uneducated is not quite the same thing.
Nobody ever does this, Cecile. Neither do they call him/her a racist or thick. It is just something trotted out by Optional ad nauseum. Every single fucking time. Along with ending her posts with:
Wait.

S/he is dependable for his/her utter inanity. There will be no originality. Just goady, goady fuckery time and time again. You might get the odd cut and paste and the occasional foray into childish sneering, but basically it's the same old shit ad nauseum - and has been for several months.

🐻 OP, plenty of people have attempted to answer you and you've proved your intentions were as my first post by being a sacsrstic goady fucker
People choosing not to answer you does not mean they are unwilling or unable to discuss the concept in general, it just means they are unwilling to waste their time discussing it with you-

Frustrating Bear isn't it and you know what side of the fence I'm on

Today 14:50 MariafromMalmo
Well I'll try to dig out the quotes on that, but your reply here means that there actually are limits for you. Just as an example: if in ten years time the per capita GDP were to be lower than that of Poland, would that mean that voting Brexit had been a bad choice for you and your loved ones? If Project Fear turns out to be Project Truth would that be bad, or would that be an acceptable trade-off for No EU immigrants

I don't have a scooby what any of that means or what you're asking. Feel free to start a separate thread on whatever it is you're trying to find out there.

"Nice to have you on our side
Excellent. By that I take you also accept "Soft Brexit" is a fantasy?"

In the pre-referendum Leavers'/Boris Jonhson sense of having your cake and eating it, yes. As a least worst option, no.

Today 14:57 twofingerstoEverything
it's the same old shit ad nauseum - and has been for several months

Have you tried stamping your ickle footsie? That always helps when you're getting proper fed up and cwoss, cwoss, cwoss.

Thank you, time4.

Maybe s/he will get it, now that a fellow traveller has commented!

My morning posts were indicative of how frustrated I felt seeing yet another one of these

The difference being time this has been done to death and Remainers have answered these questions countless times, which can be proven in any number of threads in this section.

This isn't like the mythical Leaver discussions frequently refered to elsewhere.

The title if this thread isn't even relevant anymore.

we know it's 'no deal is better than a bad deal'

Soft Brexit isn't on offer.

Even when people realise they are going to be adversely affected by Brexit they aren't going to have a mechanism to air those thoughts.

This is 'the will of the people' - we do indeed just need to 'suck it up' now.

The only things worthy of discussion now are the current facts like the fact TM cannot do anything more than read statements; that she is completely out of her depth answering questions so she avoids them; that significant points in the Tory manifesto have been backtracked on already.

But the OP doesn't want to talk about any of those points; just continually pick over pointless ground in order to pick a fight.

If we were to be sensible though, we would see another attempt to start a thread by OR and immediately hide it.

Today 15:08 Kaija
In the pre-referendum Leavers'/Boris Jonhson sense of having your cake and eating it, yes. As a least worst option, no

Very clear,. You don't happen to be Timmy's media advisor do you?