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Brexit

LibDems wanting a second referendum - Please explain the logic

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optionalrationale · 06/05/2017 15:02

The LibDems believe the UK should remain part of the EU. While they accept the outcome of the the June 2016 Referendum, they also want the final terms of our exit deal to go to a second Referendum in the hope that we say "OK let's Remain after all".

Can anyone explain the logic of this position at this stage of the negotiations? Surely this encourages the EU to make our exit terms the very worst they can make them, basically holding us to ransom until the second referendum would be deliver the capitulation they and the LibDems are hankering for.

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RedToothBrush · 14/05/2017 18:47

Better leave the UK then too huh?

Motheroffourdragons · 14/05/2017 19:02

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optionalrationale · 15/05/2017 20:48

Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do

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JamieXeed74 · 15/05/2017 22:17

You caused this. The EU did not Sorry that is just rot, the EU are complicit.

The EU and its politicians (including UK politicians) tried to turn Europe into a protectionist superstate without asking its citizens permission. So they haven't a single leg to stand on when some of the 'citizens' say "hold on this isn't what we agreed to".

The EU did not make it explicit that FOM was contingent on a member states staying in the EU. Probably because it was deliberately engineering a situation that stopped any state from ever escaping. That does not mean they are blameless. A lie by omission is still a lie.

The EU (and UK) politicians are to blame, UK citizens and myself are NOT to blame.

TheElementsSong · 15/05/2017 22:20

The EU (and UK) politicians are to blame, UK citizens and myself are NOT to blame.

OK. Got it. Absolutely nothing to do with Brexit is due to people who campaigned or voted for Brexit.

So when my red white and blue unicorn arrives with its gold farts from the sunlit uplands, will you also absolve yourself of your contribution to that?

Motheroffourdragons · 15/05/2017 22:29

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optionalrationale · 15/05/2017 22:36

TheElementsSong
What do you wish for?

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Kaija · 15/05/2017 22:42

"The EU (and UK) politicians are to blame, UK citizens and myself are NOT to blame."

This sentiment beggars belief.

TheElementsSong · 15/05/2017 22:48

Really optional? Persistently pursuing a random poster around MN is the best use of your time?

You ought to be basking in this glorious victory of the finest and bravest people in all of time and space - kick back, sip some Pimm's and wait for the sunlit uplands to roll on in!

TheElementsSong · 15/05/2017 22:50

Oh, and take a chill pill 😘

optionalrationale · 15/05/2017 22:55

No I just think it is HILARIOUS that you won't express what you wish for? Are you ashamed of it? If not, why do you avoid the question?

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squishysquirmy · 15/05/2017 22:56

USE MORE CAPS LOCK optional. It really helps to add credibility to your posts.

optionalrationale · 15/05/2017 22:59

Today 22:48 TheElementsSong
Really optional? Persistently pursuing a random poster around MN is the best use of your time

So this is somewhat ironic coming from someone who regularly comes om this thread to make oh-so-side-spittingly-hilarious pithy comments about unicorns.. yes we get it...

But why are you so ashamed simply to express what you wish for?

What's hard about that question?

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optionalrationale · 15/05/2017 23:00

Squsihy
MTKKMJ

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TheElementsSong · 15/05/2017 23:10

Right now, I shall wish you Wine and a good night's sleep - you seem to really need it.

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