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Westministenders: Up Shit Creek without Wifi.

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RedToothBrush · 29/04/2017 22:12

Theresa May is being held hostage.

There is mounting evidence that all is not as it seems at CCHQ. It makes you don your tin foil hat and ask who is in charge.

Theresa May was a Remainer. She suddenly abandoned that when she became leader. Her proclamation of what would follow next seems directly at odds with her actions. This is not her fault. This is her plea for help and way of telling the outside world that she is a prisoner of Brexit.

At first it seemed like perhaps she had been locked up with Brexiteers for too long. She seemed to be developing a survival strategy which seemed totally irrational to outsiders. The signs of intimidation everywhere though. Instead of criticising those who did this, May joined in with them or was complicit in her silence.

Things are now taking a sinister turn. After repeatedly saying ‘No Election’, May crumbled and called one. She has now not been seen in public since. Instead she is being wheeled out at closed events to the party faithful. They are being dressed as mixing with the people but they are no such thing. The plebs in attendance are set to ‘mute’ or locked out completely.

Behold the coming of the May-Bot. She seeks to ‘prevent tourism’ in Wales. She now no longer knows which town she is currently in. (Much less have a plan for Brexit). She accuses an organisation set up to use its numbers to get better deals, of doing what it is supposed to, except she calls this ‘ganging up’.

May is not transported in a bus. Oh no. Instead she travels by the Bond Villian’s choice of transport; the helicopter.

More worrying still is the mantra ‘Strong and Stable’ repeated as many times as possible. It is almost as if, if she says it enough she might start believing it. She certainly has got her party members brainwashed and acting as if they were Zombies. Who needs ‘Spice’ when you are a Conservative? They ‘Believe’…

The ploy is to hoodwink people into voting for May instead of the Tories. CCHQ have removed Conservative branding from literature and campaigning in the North. The party are still too toxic, but May apparently scores well especially against Corbyn. Ironically however negatively I think of Corbyn he does display something May increasingly seems incapable of: humanity.

Many people might think of May as some sort of dictator figure. Its true. Every vote for her strengthens her hand. But not for Brexit negotiations. Mainly because Brexit is without merit or reward. Not unless you hold power. This is part 2 of the grab for it.

This is May’s power paradox. SHE is not powerful. She isn’t persuasive. She isn’t a healer of divides. She relies on authoritarian measures to get her way. This isn’t a sign of her personal power, but a sign of her personal weakness. She is sly and sneaky in her methods rather than compelling others to come along with her. They are doing so more because they dislike the alternative in Corbyn less.

She is not stable. She has lurched from one drama to the next, and has repeatedly been forced to back down from what she wanted. Nothing says ‘stability’ and ‘good leadership’ like appointing Boris Johnson Foreign Secretary. The lady is not so much for turning and leading, but is already staggering around dizzy whilst blindfolded playing pin the tail on the donkey. And Christ she’s got a lot of them in her Government. Including the numpty who decided to do a live event and broadcast it in an area with no wi-fi. Mind you, that is soon to be the entire country. Or what’s left of it.

She had said she had a mandate for Brexit and did not need this to be approved by the country as she was getting on with the job. This is why we are having a General Election to give her a mandate…

Not only that, but there is a lurking question here that should not be forgotten. Who is pulling May’s strings and making her dance as her actions are not natural? Every puppet show has puppet masters behind the scenes of the stage, hiding in the shadows.

They will dispense with their toy once she has outlived her usefulness like every good baddie.

Is she the one we should be most fearful of?

Hold on tight this is going to be a very bumpy ride over the next two years. Just how many casualties will be sacrificed on the altar of Brexit?

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LurkingHusband · 02/05/2017 17:16

Speaking of bonkers ...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39784170

Brexit: Theresa May says she'll be 'bloody difficult' to Juncker

prettybird · 02/05/2017 17:18

This is going to end well....Hmm

TM saying (proudly Grin) that "Shebis going to be bloody difficult with Juncker"

Brexit: Theresa May says she'll be 'bloody difficult' to Juncker
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39784170

Badders123 · 02/05/2017 17:18

Yeah....
Coz that'll get countries lining up to make deals with the uk!
Christ on a bike...
😳🙄😡

prettybird · 02/05/2017 17:19

Cross-posted lurking Grin

SummerLightning · 02/05/2017 17:21

My thoughts are, we wouldn't have been given the choice to leave (just like we didn't have the choice to join) if we couldn't manage on our own. Think about it, why would we be given the chance to vote for something that could be extremely detrimental to us?

I know so many people who think this! They mostly voted remain as well, they just don't think things could possibly go totally tits up. An intelligent friend of mine said to me "In 5 years time, it won't make any difference, it'll be fine". This was a long while ago now, I'd be interested to know what he thinks now.

RedToothBrush · 02/05/2017 17:36

Personal Grudge again huh?

Like the chip she has on her shoulder about the ECJ?

Its like its May's Grudge match rather in the best interests of the UK.

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prettybird · 02/05/2017 17:41

Strong - perhaps

Stable - definitely not Hmm

RedToothBrush · 02/05/2017 17:43

My thoughts are, we wouldn't have been given the choice to leave (just like we didn't have the choice to join) if we couldn't manage on our own. Think about it, why would we be given the chance to vote for something that could be extremely detrimental to us?

For me this is an abdication of responsibility. So many people didn't want to even consider the Ireland / NI question and just went, "Oh well they'll sort it out" or better still "not my problem" when the subject did come up. Most of the time it didn't and it was actively avoided.

Saying you don't know about stuff like that and then still voting to Leave is a cop out. It indicates, anyone saying that, didn't know what they were voting for despite protesting to the contrary.

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RedToothBrush · 02/05/2017 17:45

This doesn't look contrived or awkward at all....

Westministenders: Up Shit Creek without Wifi.
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TheElementsSong · 02/05/2017 17:54

Think about it, why would we be given the chance to vote for something that could be extremely detrimental to us?

Who on earth said that? Shock

BiglyBadgers · 02/05/2017 18:06

May looks like she is going to gag on that chip. Possibly she will crumble and turn to dust if she eats human food.

Bearbehind · 02/05/2017 18:09

It's on a thread I started in AIBU elements

It's the same crowd around here and I wondered what others who were a bit less 'consumed' with it all were thinking of how it's all going.

I think I'm going to move back to this section- it scares me out there!

RedToothBrush · 02/05/2017 18:10

Well....

This needs a closer look.

You will no doubt be aware that the Annual General Meeting of HSBC Holdings PLC was held on 28th April 2016 at Queen Elizabeth Conference Cente in London. At this meeting serious allegations were made about significant HBC loans to the company IPGL led by the former Treasurer of the Conservative Party & current Chair of the Conservative Party Foundation Mr Michael Spencer. The question and answers at the AGM are now fully in the public domain on YouTube.

In essence, the allegations which was not refuted was that HBSC loaned to IPGL over £200million from 6th October 2008 onwards. The company was in some financial distress. Despite this it is reported that in excess of £5 million of HSBC loans have been laundered directly to Conservative Party Headquarters.

I am therefore calling for an immediate investigation into this situation. My specific questions are as follows:

1) Did HSBC and IPGL inform the Electoral Commission of all donations to the Conservative Party during the period IPGL was in receipt of a substantial loan from HSBC?
2) What is the Electoral Commission's policy where bank loans to companies in distress are then laundered to party political donations?
3) Will the Electoral Commission launch an immediate investigation into whether electoral law has been broken by HSBC and IPGL since 2008?
4) In the Electoral Commission's view have such loans any implications for full and proper declarations relating to the 2017 General Election?

Letter to Ms Claire Bassett, Chief Executive Party and Election Finance, The Electoral Commission from Roger Mullin MP SNP.

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Cailleach1 · 02/05/2017 18:10

I read somewhere when she went to gsk the questions had been submitted beforehand so she knew what she was choosing when it appeared she was randomly taking questions from the floor. It was the consumer goods section (toothpaste and mouthwash), not pharma.

Difficult. Strong. The really difficult thing about May being the strength of her delusions.

LurkingHusband · 02/05/2017 18:28

I'd be interested to know what he thinks now.

I think people admitting to vote leave are going to become rarer and rarer (effects of the Grim Reaper notwithstanding).

It used to be a trope in the US that you would never find anyone who voted for Nixon ....

whatwouldrondo · 02/05/2017 18:37

Well in major news, the northern octogenarian parents think they may have made a mistake voting for Leave. They had gone quiet on the jingoism but this is a major shift. If they are thinking that, and have changed their mind about May being the best person for the job, indeed having thought she actually was strong and stable, and it is coming home to them what a mess this is, there must be many like them across the country.....

Badders123 · 02/05/2017 18:46

I'm hoping so what!
I think they may be the quiet ones who decide this election tbh

mybrainhurtsalot · 02/05/2017 18:47

That's encouraging Ron. What was the tipping point?

BiglyBadgers · 02/05/2017 18:47

I'm not sure if we have had this link to Cornwall Live's rather entertaining live account of May's visit to a Cornwall factory. They were one of the press locked in a room.

www.cornwalllive.com/prime-minister-theresa-may-visits-cornwall-ahead-of-general-election/story-30306323-detail/story.html

BiglyBadgers · 02/05/2017 18:48

We can only hope what Smile

RedToothBrush · 02/05/2017 18:59

OMG the Conservative Party Election Broadcast.

'Vote for MY Candidate'.

Amongst so much other bullshit its untrue.

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whatwouldrondo · 02/05/2017 19:05

As I say they had gone quiet on it for a while so I think it was a dawning realisation. However we were discussing specifically May's terrible campaigning and the stupid strong and stable mantra, the account of the Berner lunch being confirmation of what I had been saying for months and a visit from a grandchild who lives and works in the EU with whom they had been discussing the threat Le Pen poses to them alongside Brexit.....

Bolshybookworm · 02/05/2017 19:15

Hope they vote in my constituency, ron Grin

LostPeppers · 02/05/2017 19:20

My thoughts are, we wouldn't have been given the choice to leave (just like we didn't have the choice to join) if we couldn't manage on our own. Think about it, why would we be given the chance to vote for something that could be extremely detrimental to us?

Yes there are plenty of people who really think that the difference won't be major. I've also been told that there was no need for EU citizens to be worried at all in whether they would be allowed to stay. Because it's obvious they will.... (I t usually goes hand in hand with the idea that if yu are married with a brit you will automatically have the right to stay or that EU citizens are allowed to vote in the GE)

Cailleach1 · 02/05/2017 19:25

OMG. Michael Gove saying Labour did not survive their first contact with reality (on LBC). I'm sure he meant to add he was also applying this to the British Gov't's first contact with the EU vis a vis the Brexit negotiations. That is the man who said the UK would hold all the cards the day after a vote for Brexit.