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Westministenders: Oh No Not Another One. Thread that is.

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RedToothBrush · 22/04/2017 12:19

In this edition of Westministers we play a game of ‘Where are they now?’

In June 2016 our screens were subjected to the sight of a number of particularly vocal MPs who participated in debates and stood on soap boxes to talk about the referendum.

The most noticeable of these for Leave were perhaps Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, Andrea Leadsom, Gisela Stuart, Nigel Farage, Priti Patel and Kate Hoey. For Remain it was David Cameron, George Osborne, Jeremy Corbyn, Ruth Davidson, Sadiq Khan, Nicola Sturgeon, Nick Clegg and Tim Farron.

It is starting to seem that anyone involved in campaigning either for or against Brexit in June 2016 has faced an epic battle for survival. Just how long can they last before being defeated or conceding defeat.

David Cameron’s scalp was the first to go, as he swanned off leaving everyone to clear up his mess.

Boris Johnson, who was keen to stamp his mark and pitch for the leadership by stitching up Cameron, got stitched up by Michael Gove who also lost his own bid for leadership as a result.

Johnson, of course, still lives to fight another day by getting a nice job as Theresa’s whipping boy. He’s occasionally let out by himself, but its Michael Fallon who does the ‘Grown Up Business’. He was said to be one of the last to support an early election. I can’t think why that might be.

Poor old Gove is now confined to a straight-jacket, the back benches where he’s been told to think about what he’s done like a naughty school child and a column in the Times

Andrea Leadsom was sent to a field of cows never to be seen again except to pop up for the odd cameo line shouting about ‘Jam’.

Queen Theresa also dealt with the other Conservative Leader Leave Candidate Mr Liam Fox, by shipping him off to every dodgy corner of the global to get pampered by state hostility.

Stephen Crabb simply crawled back under his rock.

The announcement of the General Election seems to be like the major soap incident episode where half the cast get killed off by a totally unrealistic disaster because their acting contracts weren’t being renewed.

The quitters and abdicators who now have legged it at the sight of a General Election are Gisela ‘Champion of the Brexit Bus’ Stuart and Nigel ‘Too chicken to be defeated for an eighth time and risk losing my nice EU pension’ Farage. George Osborne took the advice of his school teachers and had another career to fall back on when he didn’t become successful in his first choice.

Its rather starting to look like the curse of being a leading Brexiteer is to be made to disappear off the face of the earth or fuck off when the going gets tough. Have you seen Priti Patel lately? Does she even still exist? And Chris Grayling? He was convinced he was going to get chancellor when he supported May in her bid for the leadership.
Instead he got packed off transport and disappeared off the face of the earth much to the annoyance of everyone caught up in the rail strikes.

The only one who is remotely visible seems to be David Davis and is like May’s pet poodle who just tries to please his owner.

It’s almost like the only one still standing or hasn’t been banished is Kate Hoey. And the Lib Dems are trying to work on that one and make her sink beneath the waves, on board her Alan Partridge Titanic once and for all.

Conversely the visible Remainers seem to be – on the face of it - fairing rather better at the moment.

Sadiq Khan is hugely popular and actually does his job rather than fannying about on zip wires. Ruth Davidson is also well respected and apparently has saved Priti Patel’s job from abolition. If the rumours are to be believed bored with scrapping with Nicola, she might be lining herself up for ‘Big Things’ in Westminister. Cameron’s one time love interest, Nick Clegg hasn’t shaken the tarnish of the coalition but he is enjoying a new reputation as the Brexit Soothsayer and some people actually know who Tim Farron is now, which is progress. Nicola Sturgeon is of course riding high and seems to be a permanent thorn in Theresa’s side.

Jeremy ‘I’m a Remainer, honest comrades’ Corbyn is the one who seems to be something of a walking disaster area yet is also thriving with it like a zombie who just keeps going regardless of what you throw at him.

And then of course there is Queen Theresa. The Remainer. Who has crushed everyone in her party. Not just the saboteurs. Even her supposed ally Hammond and BBF Rudd have been thrown under the bus at her wimb when its suited May personally.

The General Election now sets a new scene and opportunity for new characters to emerge. Now the rats have left the ship or been put in their place.

Will May set course to the left or to the right or simply plow on like a bull in a china shop?

Anyway I’m now looking forward to the shocking soap opera moment where your favourite hero or villain gets killed off in a twist you didn’t see coming. Role on June 8th. If only to get pass the upcoming horror of the next six weeks.

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PolynesianGirl · 24/04/2017 11:02

Sorry I was talking about France there...

Lico · 24/04/2017 11:14

Most and their aides are coming from ENA. The route is a prestigious Lycee such as Henri IV, then Science Po and finally ENA. You also have Saint Cyr. Sarkosy only made it to Science Po.

www.economist.com/node/21549976

Lico · 24/04/2017 11:17

Polynesian: yes you are right. This is why France will never change. There was an English journalist teacher at Science Po who wrote a book on that very subject! Cannot remember the name.

Mistigri · 24/04/2017 11:22

misti it makes me laugh, all this fear of coalition. It works in many other countries. It worked here. I mean it wasn't unicorns and rainbows, but two years of non coalition and now everything is on fire. I'd rather have not particularly great over this shit any day.

Amen. This election cycle has vaccinated me against ideology.

howabout · 24/04/2017 11:44

The BBC website has a good piece on who is Macron and en Marche. The interesting take away for me is that he has been trying to develop policy from the ground up using detailed door to door polling - apparently this was the Obama strategy. The other parallel with Obama may be that he ends up with a Parliament he cannot do business with as he failed to build a workable reform coalition for Hollande. The optimistic view would be that en Marche will gain enough seats in their own right, but given 60% of voters just chose MLP, Fillon and Melenchon in the first round that may be unlikely?

HashiAsLarry · 24/04/2017 12:12

I have no clue if this us real or not, but it made me wet myself anyway.

BNO News‏ @BNONews
French mayor threatens to quit after town votes for Le Pen: "I don't want to devote my life to assholes"

Peregrina · 24/04/2017 12:16

French mayor threatens to quit after town votes for Le Pen: "I don't want to devote my life to assholes" Grin

whatwouldrondo · 24/04/2017 12:23

Cloud I agree with you Squoosh, I find this incredible re British media. Complete ignorance of French history and French people.
They just write superficial comments as though they were talking about the British system and electorate.
So ignorant"

Try having lived and worked in and studied China Shock *.

The wilful ignorance is not just of Europe, it is also of the rest of the world we are supposed to be freeing ourselves to deal with.

*with the exception of Carrie Gracie (BBC) Isabel Hilton, Jonathan Fenby and Julia Lovell (mostly Guardian)

whatwouldrondo · 24/04/2017 12:27

And the rumour mill suggesting Zac Goldsmith is looking for revenge against Sarah Olney. He is that arrogant but are the Conservatives that stupid? They are in Richmond, they were very pissed off that the vassals had not voted for their feudal hierarchy and one of them has a lot of influence in Westminster

Badders123 · 24/04/2017 12:31

This made me smile
twitter.com/alex4pt/status/856132517715255297

LurkingHusband · 24/04/2017 12:33

Or ...

Westministenders: Oh No Not Another One. Thread that is.
Badders123 · 24/04/2017 12:43

No idea what to think of this really...
twitter.com/independent/status/856471535665774592

CeciledeVolanges · 24/04/2017 12:45

Polynesian just that URL is excellent! "Démissionner pour éviter les connards" that bit basically means "stepping down so as not to waste any more of his time on idiots" ("dickhead" is probably a closer translation of "connard")

CeciledeVolanges · 24/04/2017 12:45

Sorry didn't read yours Peregrina

Mistigri · 24/04/2017 12:52

The story about the miffed French mayor is great as are some of the comments under the local newspaper articles about it.

Some great insults flying, I particularly like "espèce de nazillon illettré" Grin.

woman12345 · 24/04/2017 12:54

Daniel Delomez, the mayor of Pas-de-Calais Halo Smile

Cloudgaga · 24/04/2017 13:00

"The wilful ignorance is not just of Europe, it is also of the rest of the world we are supposed to be freeing ourselves to deal with."

It is embarrassing.

squoosh · 24/04/2017 13:01

Tbh Badders if I spent a prolonged amount of time in the presence of men like Farage and Nuttall et al I'd probably start to look outside my species too!

woman12345 · 24/04/2017 13:15

Good opportunity to brush up on French insults; "nazillon illettré" sera utile au moment présent. Grin Especially as Britain is so well endowed with them.

prettybird · 24/04/2017 13:26

Connard is such an expressive word Grin

Reminds me of the time when I was an "assistante" in the South of France as part of my degree many years ago Blush: I was asked by a class of 14 year olds to provide the English word for "con" ShockBlush - and to make matters worse, the son of one of the English teachers was in that class (to be fair, we were having a fun class about translations of slang words - I'd already gone through all the Scottish variations of "drunk" Grin)

Lico · 24/04/2017 13:41

I went to a catholic school run by nuns. The Director, head nun, had the unfortunate surname 'Mademoiselle Couillard' !!
In English Miss Balls (Reference to genitals-menSmile).

The amount of times we heard : ´elle me casse les couilles cette couillonne de Couillard!'

Peregrina · 24/04/2017 13:48

Brexit proving to be a recruitment nightmare.

Well, Gisela Stuart, Andrew Smith, Carswell and a few others will all be out of work in a few weeks, so get those job applications in now.

LurkingHusband · 24/04/2017 14:31

From that article:

Co-owner of The Pear Tree Hotel in Wiltshire, Alix Young, says it’s a similar story at the hotel. He doesn’t believe Brexit is entirely to blame but says it plays a significant part.
“In fifteen years we’d never had anyone British working in our housekeeping team but now we have three out of six, so it’s already had a massive difference,” she says.

Which UKIP et al will claim as a triumph ....

Badders123 · 24/04/2017 14:36

twitter.com/independent/status/856501986585440256

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