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Article 50 has been triggered (finally!).
Now we move onwards to the future 🍻

All welcome, as ever...

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to squishy for means

I prefer as it's less obnoxious & emotes more of a genuine flummox.

(I did lol at means though...!)

I see the wet fish face slappers have been back

That's an impressively hypocritical comment there wrong given your penchant for jumping on every Remainer who says anything vaguely insulting.

Here's a very well deserved

I really need new glasses. I discounted the possibility that it was a cannabis leaf and decided it was a common or garden tea leaf - never even occurred to me it was the MN Charlie's Angels logo

Great results to wake up to this morning Remainers have been told over and over and over again, the Brexit vote, wasnt support for Farage, UKIP, or any other obnoxious extreme right wing view. Farage knew that unlike Sturgeon who lives in some utterly deluded world of self importance. UKIP battered in the locals, Labour battered in the locals. And quite right too for your persistant, offensive slurring of honest decent leave voters.

Its a little early, but

And the libdongs still an irrelevance

Carolinesbeanies
Absolutely!

Happy days leavers.

Oh come on enough with the remainers and leavers shit in the pub please

Why cant you take the high ground and ignore people you dont like on here rather than being mean to everyone that put a cross in a box a fucking year ago

That's £1 in the swear box please Rufus.

Or 1.18 Euros (and falling......)

what is a euro?

You are right Rufus and I apologise for my wet fish face slappers comment earlier

Remainers have been told over and over and over again, the Brexit vote, wasnt support for Farage, UKIP, or any other obnoxious extreme right wing view

Ex UKIP voters have returned to their former home - the Conservative Party. Cameron's job in calling this referendum is done. Shame about the price tag.

surfer

What? Is shit a swear word

Oops

£2 for the tin

Its fine wrong

Its just that i would like to pop in next month and everybody is still being mean to everybody

Figment But isn't that just how democracy works? Some people felt strongly enough about leaving the EU to vote Ukip, then the Tories agree to a referendum, the majority vote is to leave and the Tories commit to doing so. So now the Ukip voters return to the Tories?

If Cameron had called a referendum and the majority vote had been for remain, we would be remaining so it's not as if the Ukip voters have dictated the outcome.

What do you think is happening in Scotland though? Increased Tory vote but there was not (as far as I know) much Ukip presence.

In my view there is more going on that just Brexit although I think we will see this more strongly in the GE than at the local elections.

Me too Rufus I forgot myself.

wrong

There have been a fair few posters both leave and remain that i 'like' and they make me snort

There are one or two I avoid like the fucking plague to be honest

Figment According to figures on Twitter (from YouGov), Ukip have given back more voters than they took in 2015 i.e. some of the ex-Ukips voting Tory were Labour or LibDem pre 2015.

I see the wet fish face slappers have been back

I am sorry but the EU does not allow any wet fish slappers in the UK. We will have to wait until we get out of the common fisheries policy before we can have some of them.

Bring on 29 March 2019.

In Scotland I think it is an anti independence vote - most people don't want a second referendum no matter how much the SNP think they do.
For goodness sake even some of the most deprived areas in Glasgow have voted in tory councillors.

It's been busy in here while I was at work

wrong I agree that there is more going on. There is an anti-corbyn vote, and there are those who are (I would say!) taken in by May's 'strong and stable' mantra. I'm not surprised by this because if everything is rocking about around you, the temptation just to hold on is pretty obvious - especially when you are getting the whole 'strong and stable' mantra intoned from every direction (the headlines yesterday from all except guardian and FT are a good example).

For myself, I think a Corbyn victory would be disastrous, but I want to see May's majority shrunk, with maximum pro-Europe MPs and heads rolling among at least some prominent brexiters. I guess I'm with TB (shame about the messenger!).

On the subject of democracy, well yes - but I think C should never have called a referendum in the first place. Also it's a controversial view, but IMV 'democracy' is not always a panacea, especially where the information on which people base their decisions is poor or misleading, where the balance of power and influence is out of kilter, and especially where a country is in a state of flux. I'm not convinced anymore.

I'm just coming back from the British library exhibition on the Russian revolution - struck by the fact that the 1916 government had the most democratic structures in the whole of the western world. There are lots of other examples of democratic decision-making going awry when it is not underpinned by consent and prosperity.

And on YouGov, I don't take their polls that seriously since discovering who owns them. I'm surprised an election polling organisation is allowed to call itself 'Gov'. In the olden days, it used to be unlawful to choose a business name that misleadingly suggested you had a connection with the government when that wasn't the case - like 'government' or 'national'.

I know there's not many lefties in here, but I like him.
Wish labour voters had more of a backbone and voted for him, we need a real socialist in opposition.