Westministenders: Boris and God Knows what next. (I'm all out of ideas!)

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Still a week until Stoke and Copeland. (Labour Hold/Con Gain unless something strange happens) QT is from Stoke next week.

A50 hits the Lords next week. Melania is being lined up to do something for the women. (God help us all).

Will UKIP survive? Will Nuttall survive? Will Labour survive? Will Trump survive? Will CNN survive? Will the Lords survive? Will Theresa May survive a class room of children?

All these questions and more

Peregrina given the rate of attrition in the Labour vote to apathy, UKIP, and Conservative I think it is fanciful for them to be assuming sufficient party loyalty.

Labour in Scotland are making the same mistake. The majority of Labour MPs were well to the left of the rest of the Party but the rump that has not defected to the SNP is the right of centre. Keeping with Ian Murray's thinking will box them into never addressing why they went from 50 MPs to 1 in a single electoral cycle and 3rd place in the Scottish Parliament, despite 55% of the Scottish population agreeing with them on Independence.

Badders I like your phrasing there

Howabout - The SNP aren't Tory, which is what the question was. The Tories in Scotland only have the 1 MP, (as do the LibDems), so it's hardly a rush to embrace the Conservatives.

When my late DF stopped voting Labour it was because he'd moved to Wales and Plaid Cymru got his vote.

I have learnt something new today again.Never knew E stood for Europe in the E numbers.

What future for E numbers after Brexit? www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39028071

Cecile...
Why thank you

From the Magic Circle Brexit blog for businesses

The Uk will require at least 5 interlocking sets of negotiations / agreements:

• Withdrawal agreement
• Temporary interim arrangement
• EU-UK longterm agreement
• UK's WTO achedule of commitments
• New FTAs with third countries

Badders Your parents / GPs may remember this:

Former mayor of Southwark, Sam King.:
"WHEN THE first Race Relations Act was passed 50 years ago in December 1965, I saw an immediate difference on the streets of Britain.
Straight away the act got rid of the racist ‘No Blacks, No Irish, No Dogs' signs that were so common in the windows of houses with rooms to rent,"

www.voice-online.co.uk/article/bring-back-no-blacks-no-irish-no-dogs

The Race Relations Act DID make a big difference
which was the point I was trying to clumsily make!

And Holocaust denial law in Germany hasn't stopped AFD, but pre t'internet it sure helped.

The economy overtakes immigration and terrorism to become Britons' biggest concern

www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/economy-overtakes-immigration-and-terrorism-to-become-the-britons-biggest-concern-a7590811.html

some one tell May...

I can remember the SNP and Winnie Ewing - which was definitely just some fringe body, although she seemed OK from what I recall. The idea of them having all but 3 Westminster seats back then would have seemed totally absurd.

badders similar here

bfc if it weren't for the RRA and her love of dogs that didn't extend to any human being, I think my English PGM would have had one of those proudly displayed in the lounge window, despite my DMs Irish origins

And Margo Mac Donald, Peregrina, a great lady.
Scottish nationalism has been taught in Scottish schools for the last 50 years. The poll tax and the miners' strike and Labour's behaviour during them, sealed the fate of Scottish Labour Salmond didn't expect to win the election in which he'd promised a referendum on independence. Cock up as well as a long held sense of pretty justifiable injustice, has made the SNP inviolable atm..

Most of the SNP members I've met are former Labour Party members. They all have left wing views. I've not met any former Tories/SNP members with right wing views - not that I'm saying that they don't exist. I probably have a distorted viewpoint, living in Glasgow

This looks like it might be significant in terms of a change of attitude towards Brexit:

www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/economy-overtakes-immigration-and-terrorism-to-become-the-britons-biggest-concern-a7590811.html

Ah, sorry just seen already posted.

Actually, thinking back, my vehemently pro-independence friend at Uni (I was at St Andrews so there weren't many other Scots ), back in the late 70s/early 80s, with whom I had many an animated argument discussion (I was anti-independence back then) was - and still is - very left wing.

I meant "that ... cunt" Badders. Also excellent meme. I can't dance at all, which perhaps explains why I get so sarky

I can't see Theresa May changing her mind - Brexit means Brexit as far as she is concerned. Only a few knives being sharpened in Tory corridors will make a difference. And then goodness knows which incompetent we would get next.

There was a scathing piece of ITN News about Deliveroo and how it treats its workers. Apparently it is a proud British company!

Its a shame more people cannot see that the decline in manufacturing has been replaced with poorly paid warehouse type jobs and the gig economy. We are consumed by Brexit and immigration yet the huge problem of workers rights is right under our noses and being ignored.

No more jobs for life, strong unions and good pensions just insecurity, low pay and poor prospects.

Big Choc...my mum remembers those signs
My dear late uncle was a Geordie
He came down here to work at the power station too (as did most of the Irish)
He struggled to find lodgings too 😞

I threaten my ds1 to unleash my interpretive dance at parties
Shuts him RIGHT up
👍😂

Have we seen this?
Thoughts?
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-second-eu-referendum-former-head-of-civil-service-lord-butler-gus-odonnell-a7592066.html

That Nielsen survey, when reported in Business Insider, had the slant that maybe people were less worried about immigration now as they think May willl get control of it after leaving the SM/ Brexit. They'll stop angsting about that and start worrying about the economy, which is a direct result of leaving the SM/ Brexit. You can't have both - vicious circle - irony etc.

uk.businessinsider.com/nielsen-british-consumer-confidence-index-immigration-brexit-economy2017-2